Carlos Sainz

There's people out there doing half Ironmans or what.

Well, you, you've done one in the past.

Well, I did one 10 years ago now, but I'm fit enough to do one for sure, given the amount of cycling, running and everything I'm doing.

But no, no, it requires too much effort.

And lately I do things where I can win.

only if you can win I like to think that I can win so yeah I know in a half Ironman I still cannot win right what can you win golf like my kind of competitions adjusted handicaps yes tennis paddle I'm playing a lot tennis I've started to play a little bit more but paddle is the one that is taking my time now

I'm trying to improve at paddle quite a bit.

And in general, just a lot of cycling, but still I'm not at the level I would like to be.

I feel I'm in a good place not only on track or with my experience on track but also I think as a human being I think the 30s is a good time because you feel also fit enough to do or very fit to do a lot of things because you've been training them for 10-15 years since you were 15.

So, yeah, I think in the 30s you still have very good reflexes, good fitness level, good experience.

So, yeah, I think it's good years to be alive in the 30s.

Too much, too much.

I wish that Carlos knew a lot more about Formula One, but it's this kind of sport where you need to live it to understand it.

And it's been almost 12 years since then.

And I can tell you my 11 years, 11 years since then.

And I can tell you the amount of things I've seen in those 11 years in Formula One still surprises me.

Like the amount of things I've learned and the amount of surprises I've received or seen.

It's a very particular, very, very special sport in that sense.

Where have been your biggest learnings in that time?

Like always, the difficult times are always the biggest learnings.