Carlos Sainz

not too serious or not too concerning, just trying to understand between each other what we could both come up with a solution or with an understanding of what was happening.

That's it, nothing major.

Did it feel like a win?

Yeah, I said it at the time, the best podium of my career because of all the accumulation of, I want to say a bad word, but I will not say the accumulation of a pile of

mess that had been building up for 12 races and then finally that happened and you saw the rest of the season how it went.

Never looked back.

Never looked back and it's probably one of the most important lessons in my career that year 2025.

So what is the lesson?

Just keep trying.

Never give up.

If you think you're doing things right and you believe in your method and you believe you're giving everything, you're giving everything to your team, you're giving everything from yourself, you're giving everything towards your sport, your routines, your commitment, your hard work.

If you go to bed that night and say, did you give everything?

And I went to bed all those nights saying, I am giving everything.

Things are just not clicking.

And when I went to bed saying,

Even that night in Baku, I reminded myself, remember, you're giving it everything for this project to go well for you.

And if it just doesn't click, doesn't click, but you're doing it.

We had been talking about it for, I would say, four or five months within the team.

Like, oh my God, we did Barcelona, car was not good in Barcelona.

We went to Hungary, car was not good in Hungary.