Carlos Sainz

I said life project.

Life project, I say it because, as you said at the beginning of the interview, I'm 31 years old now, and I feel I can enter now, let's say, the next few years of my career with a very clear target in mind, which is try and help this team go back to the front of the field.

And if you ask me in three, four years' time where I would like to be, I'd say ideally fighting for a championship with Williams.

Yeah, being 31, there's nothing that would make me happier than putting all my effort, as you say, I mean, close to my peak of my career than using the peak of my career to bring back one of the greatest teams in F1 back to the top.

And if we manage to achieve that, I'll look back being very, very proud for sure.

I think my expectations were always relatively realistic because James and his team have always been quite honest, open and frank and realistic with me.

So let's say I think my... I managed to control my expectations and my expectations, I would say...

of 2025 were controlled, but a bit low.

And I would say we've exceeded them in 2025.

And 26 is TBC.

Let's see how we go this year.

I think every team and every journey is completely different, but the stage that I think I found Williams in 2025, 26, I think I would say it's a very similar journey to where I found McLaren in 2019, 2020.

And yeah, I don't know how long it will take Williams compared to McLaren.

And still what McLaren has done of becoming world champions eventually is an extremely difficult task that deserves almost a bit of a case study to know exactly how they

they managed to do it because even if Williams can become more competitive through the next few years, then to win is another step that is even more difficult.

So congratulations to McLaren for that.

But yeah, I would say Williams is in a similar point from where we were in 19.

Yes, I could see.

I remember leaving McLaren to go to Ferrari

Obviously, when I left McLaren to go to Ferrari, when Ferrari puts an offer on the table, it's very difficult not to say no.