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Carmen Li

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Odd Lots
Carmen Li's Plan to Build a Futures Market for Compute

They're not the latest and greatest at all.

Odd Lots
Carmen Li's Plan to Build a Futures Market for Compute

So this also tells you supply-demand curve shifting.

Odd Lots
Carmen Li's Plan to Build a Futures Market for Compute

Like, how does that business work?

Odd Lots
Carmen Li's Plan to Build a Futures Market for Compute

So this is cooling two different things.

Odd Lots
Carmen Li's Plan to Build a Futures Market for Compute

One is

Odd Lots
Carmen Li's Plan to Build a Futures Market for Compute

So, for people who come to ComputeChange saying that, hey, I want to, you know, it's you and your cloud provider, right?

Odd Lots
Carmen Li's Plan to Build a Futures Market for Compute

If you get a piece of land, you get energy, a co-location, great, congratulations.

Odd Lots
Carmen Li's Plan to Build a Futures Market for Compute

Then your option is, number one, should I get the latest and greatest?

Odd Lots
Carmen Li's Plan to Build a Futures Market for Compute

The B300, the GBs, the Vera Rubin, wait for a few months?

Odd Lots
Carmen Li's Plan to Build a Futures Market for Compute

Or do you want to get ready for the trips and turn around maybe sooner, right?

Odd Lots
Carmen Li's Plan to Build a Futures Market for Compute

Then to you, it's become ROI calculation for the most part, right?

Odd Lots
Carmen Li's Plan to Build a Futures Market for Compute

What's your expected cost?

Odd Lots
Carmen Li's Plan to Build a Futures Market for Compute

you know future revenue generation what's your residual value calculation how much you can purchase by right it's actually pretty simple cash flow based you know i calculation so the way we approach residual value and the referral transaction transaction is you know

Odd Lots
Carmen Li's Plan to Build a Futures Market for Compute

Based on ROI, you know, this is your potential breakeven.

Odd Lots
Carmen Li's Plan to Build a Futures Market for Compute

Look at the H100, right?

Odd Lots
Carmen Li's Plan to Build a Futures Market for Compute

Obviously, you're not going to charge as high as B200, but your cost base is also lower.

Odd Lots
Carmen Li's Plan to Build a Futures Market for Compute

So you can do the future as you assume a few years of forward contract you signed in three years, discount the cash flow back.

Odd Lots
Carmen Li's Plan to Build a Futures Market for Compute

That's your risk to your value now, right?

Odd Lots
Carmen Li's Plan to Build a Futures Market for Compute

So we do that calculation with people so they understand, hey, what's the value

Odd Lots
Carmen Li's Plan to Build a Futures Market for Compute

supposed to generate, and then what's the trading in the market prices for refurbished or reused GPU.