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Carmen Li

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Odd Lots
Carmen Li's Plan to Build a Futures Market for Compute

So we do reserve contracts, forward contracts, as well as refurbished contracts.

Odd Lots
Carmen Li's Plan to Build a Futures Market for Compute

It's a great question.

Odd Lots
Carmen Li's Plan to Build a Futures Market for Compute

So the compute market right now for compute change, we have all our provider, mostly are new clouds around the world.

Odd Lots
Carmen Li's Plan to Build a Futures Market for Compute

It's one side.

Odd Lots
Carmen Li's Plan to Build a Futures Market for Compute

Another side is a big variety from AI startup.

Odd Lots
Carmen Li's Plan to Build a Futures Market for Compute

So even though they are startup, they spend millions of dollars on GPUs already.

Odd Lots
Carmen Li's Plan to Build a Futures Market for Compute

They are enterprises who are traditional businesses, but they are needing a node, two nodes, a few servers here and there for their inferencing or, I don't know, other deployment needs.

Odd Lots
Carmen Li's Plan to Build a Futures Market for Compute

They are providers.

Odd Lots
Carmen Li's Plan to Build a Futures Market for Compute

They are inferencing providers, right?

Odd Lots
Carmen Li's Plan to Build a Futures Market for Compute

They don't own GPUs, but they provide open source, open weights, model support for other use cases.

Odd Lots
Carmen Li's Plan to Build a Futures Market for Compute

So we see a big variety, most North American firms.

Odd Lots
Carmen Li's Plan to Build a Futures Market for Compute

They do a variety of combination of contracts.

Odd Lots
Carmen Li's Plan to Build a Futures Market for Compute

Obviously, on-demand give you the most flexibility.

Odd Lots
Carmen Li's Plan to Build a Futures Market for Compute

You don't pay when you don't use it.

Odd Lots
Carmen Li's Plan to Build a Futures Market for Compute

However, you're also at the mercy of demand-supply curve at any given time.

Odd Lots
Carmen Li's Plan to Build a Futures Market for Compute

So translate to your price can go from $3 to $6 to $9, depends on demand-supply curve shifting.

Odd Lots
Carmen Li's Plan to Build a Futures Market for Compute

So that doesn't help when you can have a predictable margin.

Odd Lots
Carmen Li's Plan to Build a Futures Market for Compute

And also in terms of scarce, you're not guaranteed for GPU resources for next hour or next month.

Odd Lots
Carmen Li's Plan to Build a Futures Market for Compute

So you see a lot of people shifting from on-demand to reserve even forward contracts, right?

Odd Lots
Carmen Li's Plan to Build a Futures Market for Compute

So forward contracts, you basically lock in deliverables for next whatever month, right?