Carmi Levy

Talk to them directly.

No technology necessary.

Great to be with you, David.

Thanks for having me.

You know, I thought the same thing, David.

I mean, you know, for years, you know, bisphenol or BPA was verboten.

We know that they had been banned.

When I buy water bottles for my bike, for example, I look for that BPA-free sign and that, you know, that shows that it's safe.

Phthalates, another common chemical that was supposed to have been outlawed, flame retardants in soft plastics.

Yet, for whatever reason, this Czech nonprofit known as Arnica Inc.,

did some digging and they looked at wearables, headphones from Apple, Beats, Samsung, Bose, JBL, Sennheiser, all the big names.

And they found that in a number of them, they looked at about 80 of them, but in a number of them, the levels of these what we call forever chemicals were significantly higher

than what should have been, than what is mandated in the law.

And it's frankly scary.

As you can tell, I'm wearing a regular pair of headphones now.

I wear Apple AirPods fairly frequently.

Thankfully, Apple's devices are below the appropriate levels.

They didn't find those chemicals there.

But other devices, for example, JBL, HP, Razer, they all had levels that are really high.

And the worry here is that