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Carol Leonnig

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
448 total appearances

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Fresh Air
The Undoing Of The Department Of Justice

And she's wondering, is this a conspiracy?

Fresh Air
The Undoing Of The Department Of Justice

Is this a crime?

Fresh Air
The Undoing Of The Department Of Justice

She goes to a prosecutor that she knows from a previous briefing named J.P.

Fresh Air
The Undoing Of The Department Of Justice

Cooney.

Fresh Air
The Undoing Of The Department Of Justice

And he says, sorry, sorry, I've been busy.

Fresh Air
The Undoing Of The Department Of Justice

I'll connect you with one of my team.

Fresh Air
The Undoing Of The Department Of Justice

And the prosecutor underneath J.P.

Fresh Air
The Undoing Of The Department Of Justice

Cooney tells her.

Fresh Air
The Undoing Of The Department Of Justice

Well, Leska McClellan, you know, this just doesn't seem like something that we would pursue.

Fresh Air
The Undoing Of The Department Of Justice

Of course, that office of prosecutors in DC are completely slammed with what?

Fresh Air
The Undoing Of The Department Of Justice

Investigating the violent attack on the Capitol and pursuing hundreds of people who were engaged in either breaching the Capitol and also violence, violent acts against police officers that day.

Fresh Air
The Undoing Of The Department Of Justice

They're swamped, and they basically turn her down and tell her maybe she should pursue this with some state investigators.

Fresh Air
The Undoing Of The Department Of Justice

Merrick Garland was an extremely respected jurist for his many years, I believe 24 years on the federal bench, had a wealth of experience in the law, was fastidious and methodical.

Fresh Air
The Undoing Of The Department Of Justice

But as Attorney General, even the people who really admired him and worked for him, some of them told us they were concerned about how allergic he seemed to even the whiff of looking like anything he did was political.

Fresh Air
The Undoing Of The Department Of Justice

And he said this publicly.

Fresh Air
The Undoing Of The Department Of Justice

I'm paraphrasing him a little, but he said, you know, it's not enough to be apolitical.

Fresh Air
The Undoing Of The Department Of Justice

We also have to be sure people believe and that we appear to be above politics.

Fresh Air
The Undoing Of The Department Of Justice

That guided everything in that first year.

Fresh Air
The Undoing Of The Department Of Justice

Garland believed that looking directly at Trump or Trump allies would create that improper whiff.

Fresh Air
The Undoing Of The Department Of Justice

He wanted to go back to a playbook created in the wake of Watergate, in which the Department of Justice siloed itself from the White House, siloed itself from politics, and tried to have this incredibly pristine, almost priestly independence.