Carole Cadwalladr
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Podcast Appearances
Minun tÀytyy sanoa, ettÀ kun olen BBC-palvelussa, haluan aina puhua Andrewa Nealista, joka oli yksi minun suurimmista palveluista BBC-politiikallisen kommentaarista. Joten tekevÀn tÀmÀn omaa henkilökohtaisesta haastattelusta, jotta hÀnet laittaisin, jos olen jossain BBC-studiossa. Okei, oikein. Joten menemme Palantirille ja siitÀ, mitÀ he sanovat. EnsinnÀkin, olen luonut viime aikoina, ettÀ haluaisin kertoa, ettÀ oletko sinua ajatellut pre-frailella?
I think sometimes it can be good to pre-fail. Pre-fail. Which is a moderated version of it. You know, sometimes you know that this is not going to be a thing for you. And it just is easier to blow yourself up first, I find, rather than be blown up. So this is the philosophy that all our strands and subjects are connecting here. This is the philosophy of Elon Musk, the right to fail.
who roughly they should be rounding up. Yeah, so they hoover up loads of data from loads of different sources and mix it all together and then think that they can spot connections between them. And I mean, there's a big debate over whether they are the evil surveillance giants or whether they are the evil surveillance giant, which isn't very good at what it does, which kind of overstates its capacities. But they've published this manifesto, or Alex Karp, the CEO
Joku on saanut kontrollia Panterin Twitter-kysymykseen. Se on iso kysymys. Olen erittÀin mielenkiintoinen siitÀ, kuka saati puutteita Twitter-kysymykseen. HÀn pÀÀtti pÀivÀn jÀlkeen laittaa tek-fasistinen manifesto korporaatiin. Se vaikuttaa minulle, ettÀ se on mahdollisesti tarinan takana.
I mean, also suggesting that all the people who intend to, you know, potentially buy your product, actually their teenage children might die also. I mean, that's not necessarily the best selling opportunity, some might say. Yes, they've said some cultures have produced vital advances, other remain dysfunctional and regressive. This is a selling point. I mean, you know what, the problem with that is, right, it's all very well saying that,
I think both of them have come up briefly. So Peter Thiel, who is the co-founder of Palantir, who has great claim to be one of the most dangerous, controlling and dominating people on the planet. And his manifesto is that this decelerationism, anything which tends to regulate AI or technology...
which intends to crimp his ambitions in any way, he considers that to be the sign of the Antichrist. And the person who he feels embodies that is Greta Thunberg. Or the European Union, I think. Oh, right.
That's a big antichrist, the European Union, isn't it? Yeah, but it's basically saying exactly the same thing, which is, if you try anything to stop me from doing what I wish to do, regardless of any consequences whatsoever, then you are evil.
Se on erittÀin periaatteellista, mitÀ heillÀ on tehty, tÀmÀ koko idea nettisivuilta. En tiedÀ, onko sinulla puhuttu paljon tÀstÀ. Ei, tÀmÀ on hyvÀ. Nettisivuilta.
Basically, they believe that the problem with the nation state is that, you know, and with democracy, is that it's just a shonky system. And what you really need is to run it like a company. So instead of a president, somebody, an elected official, you know, you need a CEO like themselves. And that is, you can see it. There's so many ways you can see this thinking changing.
They are genuinely trying to do this, and they've taken over. They've been trying to buy up countries in order to put this into action. Buy up countries? Yeah, so all sections of countries. So there's like one in Honduras. And there you can do things like drug trials, where you don't have to bother with any of the usual rules. Oh, I'll get that list again, the things that stop in progress. Yeah, exactly, exactly. So you can explain. Health and safety. Trust and safety. The thing they're having next month is, do you know about the Olympics?
Adjacent is a great word. I've been using it a lot in columns recently, because you can say Epstein adjacent, and you can say all sorts of things the way they use it. I'm Stuart Lee adjacent, and I'm Armando Nucci adjacent, and I'm going to take that. Unfortunately, your character order is adjacent, so I apologise. Other quotes in this, there tends to overhype.
all the major improvements that are coming around the corner. Or the disasters, on the other hand. So either we are going to have this amazing AI, which is going to, radical abundance is going to solve everything, or is going to end humanity. Mm-hmm.
Mutta hÀn vain sanoo sitÀ, hÀn vain ajattelee sitÀ. HÀn sanoo, ettÀ kyllÀ, se todennÀköisesti loppuu ihmisyyteen, mutta se myös luo hienoja yrityksiÀ. Olen vain laittanut tÀmÀn ulos. Sam Altman on tapannut tulevaisuuden isÀstÀ.
Cryogenically, presumably. Sam Altman bought a company in which he plans to upload his brain to the cloud called Merge Labs. Merge Labs. That doesn't sound like it wouldn't end well.
I don't know what happened to that one. There was Peter Thiel's blood renewal vampire company, wasn't there? I'm quite sure they didn't have vampire in the title. He denied. He did actually officially deny that he was a vampire. So this is the...
Well, that's the first thing I ask of any company that I... I mean, if you have to say you're not a vampire, it looks suspicious to me. And that you have your own blood boy, because I think that was the accusation that he was... How much scrutiny of these companies are there really? It's definitely more now, but I mean, we still... I really believe, I'm kind of an advantage because my initials are AI. I really believe that if I...
I mean actually all of these companies in some capacity or other are trying to replace the sort of news and information ecosystem with one they're building themselves. Because they don't really like these pesky reporters who go around like, you know, writing bitchy things about their companies. It's inconvenient and it's somewhat annoying. It's also murder, I think, isn't it?
No kyllÀ, se on ylipÀÀtÀÀn. Se on ylipÀÀtÀÀn. Se on ylipÀÀtÀÀn. Se on ylipÀÀtÀÀn. Se on ylipÀÀtÀÀn.
to all websites, including news websites. And so here we have this guy who's coming in. Matt Britton. Matt Britton. And he was, I love the fact, so this is, sorry, I do really enjoy being able to be on the BBC and to slag off your incoming director general. I just find it's a little bit of a frizzle. They haven't edited this yet. They haven't pre-edited it. They pre-edited it. I can hear the producer pre-editing this section. This is a free space.