Carole Hooven, Ph.D.

Thank you so much for having me.

I'm thrilled to be here.

How old are your boys now?

Okay.

So I want to make sure to come back to everything that you just said.

So how did I get interested?

I'm going to start at the beginning, which is that I grew up with three older brothers.

And I'm assuming that this had something to do with my interest in testosterone.

They were different than I was, I am, in some consistent ways.

I don't think I thought much about that.

And I think that probably made me really want to understand what motivates male behavior in general and why it's different from female behavior.

That wasn't sort of an idea that I had when I was in college that I was going to go study this.

But I did become intensely interested in the evolutionary origins of human behavior in general and what makes us different from other animals.

And that happened, I think, because of traveling.

I traveled to a lot of different places in the world, mostly by myself.

during and after college, and there were such extreme differences culturally.

Your family's Egyptian.

That was one of the places I went that really freaked me out because that really shook me.

The cultural differences were so profound in terms of the incredibly important role that sex plays in social life.

And the segregation and different rules that applied to males and females.