Caroline Hepke

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And I'm Caroline Hepke in London.

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Well, the judge is saying this looks like illegal retaliation, putting a seven-day injunction saying that the Pentagon cannot declare anthropropic, in fact, a supply chain risk.

Now, the judge put a stay on that injunction.

So, for seven days, the Pentagon now has a chance to appeal.

So, we're really still in this incremental stage of trying to work out these very fraught lines between what

whether the Pentagon can claim that Anthropic is essentially usurping chain of command, the president's ability to command his own troops, and whether Anthropic is instigating unfair red lines, or whether it's absolutely extraordinary, which we know it is, it's unprecedented, to declare Anthropic a supply train risk, treating it as an adversary, a U.S.

adversary, and a judge at the moment saying, no, that is not okay.

Well, it was fascinating.

The book came out on the same day that you, me, everybody else was at Hill and Valley.

And for the founders of Hill and Valley, so much of what has been animating them to end what they called to me this Cold War between East and West Coast, between Silicon Valley and Washington, goes back to Project Maven.

The moment that Google workers protested at discovering they were involved in

what they called the business of war.

They're cutting-edge AI tech being used to identify, with drone footage, identify potential targets in U.S.

battle zones.

Now, today we see it playing out slightly differently, but nonetheless, we are in this key moment where Anthropica, the Pentagon, are now at war again, and AI is at the heart of another fracture between Silicon Valley and China.

what the Pentagon wants to do with AI.

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