Caroline Hyde

Yeah, definitely a de-layering.

They're kind of targeting the middle.

And this is something that goes back to last year when Jassy was talking about, you know, more people who are doing the direct work and fewer people managing the work, you know, in the middle.

So there's that in there.

It also hit a large...

You know, different parts of the organization.

So when when they had initially laid off 14000 back in October, departments were given a choice.

They said they had to hit some numbers and they were given a choice.

Do you want to cut people now or wait until after after the holiday season?

And so a lot of.

departments, particularly the retail division, waited until after Christmas to do their cuts.

So now we're seeing a total of 30,000, which is the biggest in Amazon's history for the corporate side.

And that's, you know, compared to, I think, 27,000, which was a few years ago back in 2021 and 22.

Now, it feels, Spencer, that they've been at length to say this isn't some regular occurrence.

I know Beth Galletti, who's really in charge of people experience technology, is this isn't going to be some rolling set of cuts that we see every few months.

But 30,000 last three months is a huge amount.

Yeah, $30,000 is a big amount.

But also, if you read her statement very carefully, it's really corporate gobbledygook trying to strike that tone between reassuring employees but also not making any promises.

You know what I mean?

So she's saying some might ask if this is going to be a rolling theme, but she's not really saying, hey, we're not going to cut any more over this period of time.