Caroline Lawrence
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Apollonius Rhodius in the 3rd century. Diodorus Siculus in the 1st century BC. Then you go to the Roman. You've got Ovid and Valerius Flaccus. Ovid kind of straddles the two centuries. Valerius Flaccus was a Flavian author who wrote a version called the Argonautica as well in Latin. And finally, we've got Apollodorus, who does a really succinct kind of summary at the end of the first century.
Apollonius Rhodius in the 3rd century. Diodorus Siculus in the 1st century BC. Then you go to the Roman. You've got Ovid and Valerius Flaccus. Ovid kind of straddles the two centuries. Valerius Flaccus was a Flavian author who wrote a version called the Argonautica as well in Latin. And finally, we've got Apollodorus, who does a really succinct kind of summary at the end of the first century.
So they all told the quest, but the earliest mention we get is in the Iliad, where Homer actually mentions Jason's son, which is really fun. He doesn't mention the quest. He just says, Many ships were there from Lemnos, bearing wine, sent forth by Jason's son Euneus, whom Hypsipyle bore to Jason, shepherd of the host.
So they all told the quest, but the earliest mention we get is in the Iliad, where Homer actually mentions Jason's son, which is really fun. He doesn't mention the quest. He just says, Many ships were there from Lemnos, bearing wine, sent forth by Jason's son Euneus, whom Hypsipyle bore to Jason, shepherd of the host.
So they all told the quest, but the earliest mention we get is in the Iliad, where Homer actually mentions Jason's son, which is really fun. He doesn't mention the quest. He just says, Many ships were there from Lemnos, bearing wine, sent forth by Jason's son Euneus, whom Hypsipyle bore to Jason, shepherd of the host.
Now that's a really interesting little epithet that's given to Jason, the shepherd of the host. And it's also used by Hesiod, who's about the same time as Homer, who mentions Jason marrying Medea and also calls him a shepherd of the people or shepherd of the host.
Now that's a really interesting little epithet that's given to Jason, the shepherd of the host. And it's also used by Hesiod, who's about the same time as Homer, who mentions Jason marrying Medea and also calls him a shepherd of the people or shepherd of the host.
Now that's a really interesting little epithet that's given to Jason, the shepherd of the host. And it's also used by Hesiod, who's about the same time as Homer, who mentions Jason marrying Medea and also calls him a shepherd of the people or shepherd of the host.
And then you also get a mention in the Odyssey, one line, that the Argo was the only ship that ever went through the clashing rocks safely. They've got the little snippets that show that in the 8th century, they knew about him, but the first complete story of the quest is from Pindar. One of his Pythianodes, the fourth Pythianode, often considered his best.
And then you also get a mention in the Odyssey, one line, that the Argo was the only ship that ever went through the clashing rocks safely. They've got the little snippets that show that in the 8th century, they knew about him, but the first complete story of the quest is from Pindar. One of his Pythianodes, the fourth Pythianode, often considered his best.
And then you also get a mention in the Odyssey, one line, that the Argo was the only ship that ever went through the clashing rocks safely. They've got the little snippets that show that in the 8th century, they knew about him, but the first complete story of the quest is from Pindar. One of his Pythianodes, the fourth Pythianode, often considered his best.
And that's in, actually, we know the exact date of that. It's 462 BCE is the date of the fourth Pythianode that first tells the story of Jason. And it's got some of the basic elements in it, but not all.
And that's in, actually, we know the exact date of that. It's 462 BCE is the date of the fourth Pythianode that first tells the story of Jason. And it's got some of the basic elements in it, but not all.
And that's in, actually, we know the exact date of that. It's 462 BCE is the date of the fourth Pythianode that first tells the story of Jason. And it's got some of the basic elements in it, but not all.
Yeah, it does. It does. What it does is it stays pretty much the same. You've got the tropes, but they will emphasize what they want to emphasize for their political... One thing I realized is that poets were political in the past, that the fourth Pythian Ode was actually written, probably commissioned by a man who wanted to be reinstated in favor with a certain king.
Yeah, it does. It does. What it does is it stays pretty much the same. You've got the tropes, but they will emphasize what they want to emphasize for their political... One thing I realized is that poets were political in the past, that the fourth Pythian Ode was actually written, probably commissioned by a man who wanted to be reinstated in favor with a certain king.
Yeah, it does. It does. What it does is it stays pretty much the same. You've got the tropes, but they will emphasize what they want to emphasize for their political... One thing I realized is that poets were political in the past, that the fourth Pythian Ode was actually written, probably commissioned by a man who wanted to be reinstated in favor with a certain king.
So he got Pindar to write this ode to the king who'd won a chariot race with hints of, you know, I'm your pal, reinstate me. And of course, we know that Virgil wrote the Aeneid to promote Octavian, who became Augustus. And so there's a lot of political stuff in the retellings. And then you get different flavors according to their tastes.
So he got Pindar to write this ode to the king who'd won a chariot race with hints of, you know, I'm your pal, reinstate me. And of course, we know that Virgil wrote the Aeneid to promote Octavian, who became Augustus. And so there's a lot of political stuff in the retellings. And then you get different flavors according to their tastes.
So he got Pindar to write this ode to the king who'd won a chariot race with hints of, you know, I'm your pal, reinstate me. And of course, we know that Virgil wrote the Aeneid to promote Octavian, who became Augustus. And so there's a lot of political stuff in the retellings. And then you get different flavors according to their tastes.