Caroline Turco

Yes.

It's kind of the reason.

I think it's more about who has control of the narrative.

Because if you're putting an active political person on there, then they have control of that narrative.

Coins have been used as propaganda.

and as political messaging since the very beginning.

The majority of the American cash-based money that's used is used abroad.

So domestically, I think you have something there.

It would be very limited.

Also, if it's on a 24-carat gold commemorative coin, the average human being is not ever going to see this.

Have you seen the price of gold recently?

No.

But internationally, our coinage, and if we were to continue in this direction and end up putting presidents on circulating coins, that would become a significant messaging platform.

If it were up to me, it would have to be an image of Lady Liberty.

We have used the concept of liberty, the allegory of liberty, since the very beginning of our coinage when we first made it in 1792.

And we did that on purpose.

We did that to avoid putting our leadership on coins.

So liberty has represented our republic instead of rulers from the beginning.

So that would be the most continuity I think that we could find in something for the 250th.

You're so welcome.