Caroline

wild I don't understand it's wild to have two turkeys so close together I guess they were abundant in America whereas why are we eating turkey when they're not that abundant hi I'm not a huge turkey fan so but I'd like us to um talk about the Thanksgiving episodes actually because you know Thanksgiving is the center of the trauma for Chandler but also I do think some of the finest work and if you want to talk about like these sort of artistic flexes of friends

I do think those flashback episodes are some of the finest work in all of sitcom.

Her whole life.

Her whole career is because Chandler says you should be a chef.

Do you think she genuinely loves being a chef?

That is more a question for you, actually, considering you are closer to the chef profession than I am.

No, because I would hate being a chef.

I think she has the right personality for it, yeah.

Well, this is the interesting thing.

I think that the Judy and Monica relationship is one of the most interesting and durable in terms of the relationships many women all around the world have with their mothers, which is that often motherhood exists on this very interesting fault line

between your mother wanting to groom you into being the most delicious thing a man can have so that you'll be okay for the rest of your life.

Right, right, exactly.

That you can be like the most fit thing for men to have around.

Mrs. Bennet.

So you won't ever go hungry.

Yeah.

Exactly.

It's the Mrs. Bennett thing.

But it's also that what runs along that fault line is a dual thing of like, your mother, from the moment she first met you, fed you with her body.

in many cases and she wants you to be fed all the time and she wants you to be nourished all the time and she demonstrates how much she's able to love you by how much she feeds you and that's why I know so many women who like their moms are commenting on their weight in one breath and then they're saying, you know, have some more mac and cheese in the next breath, do you know what I mean?