Carrie Johnson
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1,251 appearances
127 recordings
4 series
first heard Dec 2024
last heard 4 Sep
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Also, you know, the Trump administration has been advancing this argument that people are coming to the U.S., people from Russia and China, to have babies here, and that could pose some kind of national security threat or a threat to allegiance to the United States.
Roberts basically said...
We may have a new social problem here in that, but we don't have a new constitution.
And that's an issue that other justices came back to as well.
Justice Kagan in particular basically said, I understand the policy considerations that this administration is putting forth, but it's not maybe enough or we would need a tremendous magnitude of evidence and argument to solve
turn away from birthright citizenship, which this country has basically understood to mean something for 160 years or so.
Trump's day one executive order, of course, only dealt with babies born 30 days after the date of that order.
And today in the arguments, the solicitor, General John Sauer, once again asked for relief that would be prospective.
In other words, this order wouldn't go back and take away the citizenship of babies already born in the U.S.
But Justice Sotomayor really raised questions about that.
She basically said the argument, the import of the argument that Trump administration is making would allow somebody to go back and potentially denaturalize lots and lots of people who are already born in this country.
And, you know, that would be a tremendous, tremendous change and a real upheaval.
In another passage, other justices asked about, you know, how that could play out moving forward.
And, you know, we already know from estimates that were put forward in this case that about 250,000 babies are born annually, that this could apply to as many as 5 million over the next 20 years.
But if the administration wins here, which seems a little hard to imagine based on the
that this administration or a future one could go back and take some very aggressive steps that would apply to people who were born here sometimes a long time ago.
Justice Katandre Brown Jackson really put this very boldly.
She asked what would happen if there were a dispute about the nationality or citizenship of a new baby.
She asked the Solicitor General, are we going to give depositions to pregnant moms?
And what if the administration or somebody in the hospital concludes that this baby is not a citizen?
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