Carrie
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And finally, I'm just sort of, I remember leaning on the rails and I can see like the, you know, the parking lot and, you know, some of like the landscaping. And she started talking about the difference between aliens. I remember her mentioning specifically green aliens and the gray aliens earlier.
And finally, I'm just sort of, I remember leaning on the rails and I can see like the, you know, the parking lot and, you know, some of like the landscaping. And she started talking about the difference between aliens. I remember her mentioning specifically green aliens and the gray aliens earlier.
Mick actually ended up appealing his guilty conviction. His first trial, he was found guilty of murder. He appealed that with the assistance of his attorney.
Mick actually ended up appealing his guilty conviction. His first trial, he was found guilty of murder. He appealed that with the assistance of his attorney.
his murder conviction was overturned. And I don't know if it's true or not, but Chuck Smiley told me it was the first time in Dayton history that a murder conviction was overturned. So it was overturned stating that his attorney was less than adequate for allowing some things in the trial that he should have objected to.
his murder conviction was overturned. And I don't know if it's true or not, but Chuck Smiley told me it was the first time in Dayton history that a murder conviction was overturned. So it was overturned stating that his attorney was less than adequate for allowing some things in the trial that he should have objected to.
So he won a new trial, and he had to decide whether he wanted a jury trial or a three-judge panel. I tried to convince him to go with a jury trial because I felt like he had a better chance, but he chose a three-judge panel.
So he won a new trial, and he had to decide whether he wanted a jury trial or a three-judge panel. I tried to convince him to go with a jury trial because I felt like he had a better chance, but he chose a three-judge panel.
I begged him to go to trial again. I begged him. I told him that I read in a newspaper article evidence that was available in the first trial would not be available in a new trial. And when I read that, I told Mick, go to trial, go to trial, but he was so afraid he would be found guilty that he refused.
I begged him to go to trial again. I begged him. I told him that I read in a newspaper article evidence that was available in the first trial would not be available in a new trial. And when I read that, I told Mick, go to trial, go to trial, but he was so afraid he would be found guilty that he refused.
But I begged him to do it. I begged him to go to trial.
But I begged him to do it. I begged him to go to trial.
I bet now he wishes he would have at least tried. I mean, the outcome could have been better, but it wouldn't have been any worse.
I bet now he wishes he would have at least tried. I mean, the outcome could have been better, but it wouldn't have been any worse.
I'll never understand why he did that, unless he was so ashamed of what he had done that he felt like he deserved to be punished. I don't know.
I'll never understand why he did that, unless he was so ashamed of what he had done that he felt like he deserved to be punished. I don't know.
There was a point when Tim said he would clear Mick, but I don't think the prosecutors were going to allow that to happen anyway. They were presented with a letter that Tim wrote telling me that he had found God in prison. I don't really believe that part, but that Mick had absolutely nothing to do with the murder, that it was all him.
There was a point when Tim said he would clear Mick, but I don't think the prosecutors were going to allow that to happen anyway. They were presented with a letter that Tim wrote telling me that he had found God in prison. I don't really believe that part, but that Mick had absolutely nothing to do with the murder, that it was all him.
I think Tim had such a, you know, a bad life, and I don't know if he ever really knew true happiness. And maybe there was jealousy between what Mick and I had. Yeah, he sabotaged it for sure. Which is like one of the questions that I asked him when I went to see him when he first got arrested. You know, why would you do this to us?
I think Tim had such a, you know, a bad life, and I don't know if he ever really knew true happiness. And maybe there was jealousy between what Mick and I had. Yeah, he sabotaged it for sure. Which is like one of the questions that I asked him when I went to see him when he first got arrested. You know, why would you do this to us?