Carter Lee

Right.

And they get him, they come up in this room, you know, all, you know, you know, all you hear is slamming and you know, whatnot.

And Jeff Bourse runs out and his head's bleeding and he runs to the bathroom.

And, um,

But I felt bad for that kid, Leonard, because while he was screaming and getting mad, he's yelling things like, oh, nobody was ever there for me.

I never had a family.

This is a kid that never had a Christmas.

This is a kid that never experienced the joy of waking up on Christmas morning and have a present.

He never knew what it's like for a mom to love him.

He never had any of those experiences.

So what are you going to do with a kid like that?

It's like he's just destined to this kind of life.

And he was actually, they were going to send him home to a homeless shelter.

They were going to put him in a homeless shelter.

And I think he sabotaged himself because he knew, okay, I've been locked up six, seven, eight years.

Now I'm going to a homeless shelter.

I'm going to reoffend in the first week and go back.

Why not just stay here?

Right.

So I think that's what ended up happening with him.