Casey Liss

Back in the battle days, you had to come up with a username and put numbers at the end of it and do other awful things, right? That's where we are, I feel like, with passkeys. It's like, oh, so you support caskeys? I don't know what you're going to want from me. If I enable this passkey, are you going to remove my password and my password won't work anymore?

Back in the battle days, you had to come up with a username and put numbers at the end of it and do other awful things, right? That's where we are, I feel like, with passkeys. It's like, oh, so you support caskeys? I don't know what you're going to want from me. If I enable this passkey, are you going to remove my password and my password won't work anymore?

Because sometimes I don't want to do that, not because I don't trust passkeys, but because I don't trust the website to implement passkeys well enough. And there are some things, you know, Casey mentioned the sharing of pass keys, which I think is trivial with Apple's passwords. It's just like you put it in a shared group or whatever. And by the way, I'm loving the shared groups.

Because sometimes I don't want to do that, not because I don't trust passkeys, but because I don't trust the website to implement passkeys well enough. And there are some things, you know, Casey mentioned the sharing of pass keys, which I think is trivial with Apple's passwords. It's just like you put it in a shared group or whatever. And by the way, I'm loving the shared groups.

I made a bunch for my family and they're really making your life better. So thumbs up on that as someone who wasn't a one password user, which has that feature has had it for ages. It's great for me to have it now and the Apple key chain thing. But pass keys, there are still some technical limitations. The sort of

I made a bunch for my family and they're really making your life better. So thumbs up on that as someone who wasn't a one password user, which has that feature has had it for ages. It's great for me to have it now and the Apple key chain thing. But pass keys, there are still some technical limitations. The sort of

export import flow for passkeys is supposedly coming soon but it's not available yet they want to do it in a secure way so on and so forth and that is a limitation versus plain old passwords where it's easy for example not easy but it is very possible for example to migrate from one password to apple's password system because one password has an export and apple's password have an import

export import flow for passkeys is supposedly coming soon but it's not available yet they want to do it in a secure way so on and so forth and that is a limitation versus plain old passwords where it's easy for example not easy but it is very possible for example to migrate from one password to apple's password system because one password has an export and apple's password have an import

Obviously, making that export is incredibly insecure, right? Because there's your passwords in plain text and a file that you're going to import or whatever. So that's not great. And PASC is going to try to do that better. But there's no good cross platform way to do that with PASC yet. And every website that uses PASC can pick a different policy. And you really never know what it's going to be.

Obviously, making that export is incredibly insecure, right? Because there's your passwords in plain text and a file that you're going to import or whatever. So that's not great. And PASC is going to try to do that better. But there's no good cross platform way to do that with PASC yet. And every website that uses PASC can pick a different policy. And you really never know what it's going to be.

Can you just log in with the passkey by itself? Can you keep the password in the passkey? If so, how do you choose to use the passkey? Are you only prompted to use your passkey when you use browser X and not browser Y? Does it work on your phone or your Mac? my stance is anytime there is a passkey, I would like to use it instead of a password, but I'm not even always given that option.

Can you just log in with the passkey by itself? Can you keep the password in the passkey? If so, how do you choose to use the passkey? Are you only prompted to use your passkey when you use browser X and not browser Y? Does it work on your phone or your Mac? my stance is anytime there is a passkey, I would like to use it instead of a password, but I'm not even always given that option.

So I think we are in a transition period and it's fine for you to dip your toe in, find a website that uses passkeys that you think it will make your login experience better and try it for a while.

So I think we are in a transition period and it's fine for you to dip your toe in, find a website that uses passkeys that you think it will make your login experience better and try it for a while.

I've been on sites that took away my password and I've disabled the passkey so I could get my password back because I didn't trust yet that this website was implementing passkeys well enough that I wasn't gonna get locked out of my account, right? you have to kind of make those choices on your own. So fingers crossed for me on PassKeys. I am optimistic about technology, but it is still young.

I've been on sites that took away my password and I've disabled the passkey so I could get my password back because I didn't trust yet that this website was implementing passkeys well enough that I wasn't gonna get locked out of my account, right? you have to kind of make those choices on your own. So fingers crossed for me on PassKeys. I am optimistic about technology, but it is still young.

Can I pause for a second here? Yes. Just point this out, which I know I've mentioned this before, but just to show that it's not just my family and that it is a thing. When we were all kids, when there was a problem with the computer, we fixed it because our parents were old and didn't understand computers and we were young and we did. Not every young person understood computers, but we did.

Can I pause for a second here? Yes. Just point this out, which I know I've mentioned this before, but just to show that it's not just my family and that it is a thing. When we were all kids, when there was a problem with the computer, we fixed it because our parents were old and didn't understand computers and we were young and we did. Not every young person understood computers, but we did.

now that we are older i mean my parents said this to me all the time when i was a child when you get old like me your kids will have to explain technology to you but instead what happens is that our children's computers don't work and they bring them to us to fix because we understand computers now obviously we have a tech podcast for programmers like we're not the average person but i still feel like we may end up being or at least my generation gen x may have been the only generation that

now that we are older i mean my parents said this to me all the time when i was a child when you get old like me your kids will have to explain technology to you but instead what happens is that our children's computers don't work and they bring them to us to fix because we understand computers now obviously we have a tech podcast for programmers like we're not the average person but i still feel like we may end up being or at least my generation gen x may have been the only generation that