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Casey Liss

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Accidental Tech Podcast
684: It’s Not What Young People Do

The main downside with passkeys so far is that the way that I see them being implemented by websites and services is not as a replacement for passwords, but as a replacement for two-factor.

Accidental Tech Podcast
684: It’s Not What Young People Do

So it's actually just taking this other complex thing and replacing it with a different complex thing.

Accidental Tech Podcast
684: It’s Not What Young People Do

Now, the security of a passkey is way better than most of those other systems or alternatives to it.

Accidental Tech Podcast
684: It’s Not What Young People Do

But

Accidental Tech Podcast
684: It’s Not What Young People Do

the user experience of it is still really clunky in a lot of places and ideally it would replace the entire login like ideally you could just have it like automatically if you have a passkey for the site you're on and it shows you a login screen it just prompts you to use it and it logs you in all the way that would be the ideal case

Accidental Tech Podcast
684: It’s Not What Young People Do

And you occasionally see sites like that, but it's not the common case.

Accidental Tech Podcast
684: It’s Not What Young People Do

So that's kind of my kind of mixed opinion of them is that they are a great technology that solves a lot of problems.

Accidental Tech Podcast
684: It’s Not What Young People Do

They also create a lot of inconvenience in certain contexts.

Accidental Tech Podcast
684: It’s Not What Young People Do

And they are not really making logins on websites that much easier in practice, not because of their inherent technology, but because of the implementation decisions of those websites.

Accidental Tech Podcast
684: It’s Not What Young People Do

Yeah, I think the main thing to keep in mind here is that when you look at where RAM goes on a Mac...

Accidental Tech Podcast
684: It’s Not What Young People Do

Mac OS is not what you have to worry about.

Accidental Tech Podcast
684: It’s Not What Young People Do

What you have to worry about is all the third-party apps, especially apps that use things like the web frameworks, like Electron and stuff like that.

Accidental Tech Podcast
684: It’s Not What Young People Do

So you have Chrome itself.

Accidental Tech Podcast
684: It’s Not What Young People Do

Chrome is a big resource hog compared to Safari in most ways.

Accidental Tech Podcast
684: It’s Not What Young People Do

And then all the Electron-based apps, they just gobble up RAM like crazy.

Accidental Tech Podcast
684: It’s Not What Young People Do

There's not a lot Apple can do about that, really.

Accidental Tech Podcast
684: It’s Not What Young People Do

The OS does its best, but for the most part, that's what you have to worry about.

Accidental Tech Podcast
684: It’s Not What Young People Do

And now, that being said, when you're designing an app like that, you look at the installed base of what people actually use, and if...

Accidental Tech Podcast
684: It’s Not What Young People Do

Computers that many people use are going to run that kind of app very slowly and it's going to blow their computers up.

Accidental Tech Podcast
684: It’s Not What Young People Do

You don't care because the entire industry doesn't care and you just have to suck it up as the user.