Casey Liss

Well, I was trying to give you the credit, John.

I know it right there.

No, no, no, no, no.

No, no, no, I know.

Genuinely, hand to God, you know I will fess up if I stumble over it.

I've done it a million times.

This time I was trying not to steal your credit for once.

I'm leaving it all in.

Screw it.

Marco, if you want to clean it up, that's up to you.

All right.

So anyway, I happen to know, and it has nothing to do with John Syracuse whatsoever, that there's also a vehicle to load, or V2L, where the AC inverter in the EV is used to supply power that is plugged in via a generator inlet or whatever.

V2L does not require a bidirectional charger to operate.

And by pure coincidence, I don't know why I didn't bring this up last episode because it's fresh in mind.

My friend Brad, who has the F-150 Lightning,

He had just installed in the last couple of weeks a generator inlet for him to plug his F-150 Lightning into because that has 220, I'm probably getting the details wrong, but it's basically got like a NEMA 1450 or whatever outlet on the back of it that you can plug into a generator inlet.

That's exactly the point.

And so as best I know, he has not yet tried this, but in theory, he can use the battery in his Lightning in order to power at least some subset of the house.

Going back to Russell, to me, this removes almost every downside of a battery backup system and keeps all of the upside.

Most TVs have batteries in the 80 kilowatt hour range, so you're starting with way more capacity than you get with a Powerwall or equivalent battery backup system.