Casey Liss

It's so clear that everyone, all of Netflix users want this integration to be a thing. And Netflix just doesn't want to listen. I don't get it. I just don't get it.

It's so clear that everyone, all of Netflix users want this integration to be a thing. And Netflix just doesn't want to listen. I don't get it. I just don't get it.

I don't entirely disagree with you, but I don't know. I think most people with an Apple TV probably leave the home button or whatever you want to call that to be the Apple TV app, which I agree with you is barbaric, I guess.

I don't entirely disagree with you, but I don't know. I think most people with an Apple TV probably leave the home button or whatever you want to call that to be the Apple TV app, which I agree with you is barbaric, I guess.

i really really dislike the apple tv app a lot i have complained and moaned about the information architecture on that app a thousand times and i'll do it again right now i think everything is laid out in a confusing way it's it's gotten better but it's very challenging to find the thing you want to find maybe my brain just disagrees with the way it's designed because it's intentionally hiding it from you because it doesn't want you to continue watching the thing you were previously watching

i really really dislike the apple tv app a lot i have complained and moaned about the information architecture on that app a thousand times and i'll do it again right now i think everything is laid out in a confusing way it's it's gotten better but it's very challenging to find the thing you want to find maybe my brain just disagrees with the way it's designed because it's intentionally hiding it from you because it doesn't want you to continue watching the thing you were previously watching

Yeah, yeah. It's preposterous. But I do think that is most people's interface to the Apple TV. So, yeah, I mean, maybe you're right that maybe most people do the thing that I would suggest and that you would suggest and I presume that Marco would suggest, which is to switch the home button to, you know, going to the grid of apps.

Yeah, yeah. It's preposterous. But I do think that is most people's interface to the Apple TV. So, yeah, I mean, maybe you're right that maybe most people do the thing that I would suggest and that you would suggest and I presume that Marco would suggest, which is to switch the home button to, you know, going to the grid of apps.

Yeah, see, but I think I really the more I hear you talk, the more I strongly disagree with you here. First of all, I think that there are people in our little click that do enjoy the Apple TV app. And I might be putting words in his mouth, but I could swear I've heard Jason talk about how.

Yeah, see, but I think I really the more I hear you talk, the more I strongly disagree with you here. First of all, I think that there are people in our little click that do enjoy the Apple TV app. And I might be putting words in his mouth, but I could swear I've heard Jason talk about how.

And the thing, I'm glad you brought up the Kindle because to my eyes, it's actually a very, very different situation. With the Kindle, everyone involved wants a piece of the pie. Like they all want a little cut of the money. And you can squint and say that that's still applicable with the Apple TV app. But to me, it's very different. To me, it's not about Apple money.

And the thing, I'm glad you brought up the Kindle because to my eyes, it's actually a very, very different situation. With the Kindle, everyone involved wants a piece of the pie. Like they all want a little cut of the money. And you can squint and say that that's still applicable with the Apple TV app. But to me, it's very different. To me, it's not about Apple money.

getting a cut of Netflix's money. And it's not really even necessarily about them getting more of your attention. I really think to my eyes, having everything bubble up into the Apple TV app is to just make a unified, better experience in the same way that the Apple TV hardware to me is a better experience. Again,

getting a cut of Netflix's money. And it's not really even necessarily about them getting more of your attention. I really think to my eyes, having everything bubble up into the Apple TV app is to just make a unified, better experience in the same way that the Apple TV hardware to me is a better experience. Again,

With the caveat that I completely concur with you, John, that the Apple TV app is a dumpster fire. But if we take it, if we can put that large caveat aside and take it and go with the assumption that the Apple TV app is at least serviceable for most people, then I don't feel like Apple's trying to take a cut of Netflix's money or of time.

With the caveat that I completely concur with you, John, that the Apple TV app is a dumpster fire. But if we take it, if we can put that large caveat aside and take it and go with the assumption that the Apple TV app is at least serviceable for most people, then I don't feel like Apple's trying to take a cut of Netflix's money or of time.

Sorry, I meant in this context. You're totally right, but I mean in this context.

Sorry, I meant in this context. You're totally right, but I mean in this context.

All fair. But what I'm driving at is from my perspective, and I have been quick to point as all three of us, I think I've been quick to point out a lot of ways where we think Apple's making really BS decisions these days. This smells to me like they're just trying to do right by their users.

All fair. But what I'm driving at is from my perspective, and I have been quick to point as all three of us, I think I've been quick to point out a lot of ways where we think Apple's making really BS decisions these days. This smells to me like they're just trying to do right by their users.