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Casey Means, MD

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The Joe Rogan Experience
#2210 - Calley Means & Casey Means, MD

So a doctor, instead of saying, I reversed these 50 patients' diabetes and now they are non-diabetic, they would report that they had their patient panel on long-term diabetes medication and they were compliant with it. That was a good outcome. So even something that sounds good, Obamacare, value-based care, can get corrupted if we don't look at the details.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2210 - Calley Means & Casey Means, MD

There's a new bill right now that's been introduced that's all about protecting farmers, that's basically going to allow the EPA, which is totally bought off, to decide at a federal level whether these different pesticides are safe or not.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2210 - Calley Means & Casey Means, MD

There's a new bill right now that's been introduced that's all about protecting farmers, that's basically going to allow the EPA, which is totally bought off, to decide at a federal level whether these different pesticides are safe or not.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2210 - Calley Means & Casey Means, MD

There's a new bill right now that's been introduced that's all about protecting farmers, that's basically going to allow the EPA, which is totally bought off, to decide at a federal level whether these different pesticides are safe or not.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2210 - Calley Means & Casey Means, MD

And so if the EPA says that a particular pesticide is safe, then state by state, it's going to be similar to the vaccines where people cannot sue for harm caused by pesticide injury if it's got the label that the FDA said it was safe. So it's like, oh, well, this is going to create less complexity for farmers and we're going to have less litigation. But it's the devil's in the details.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2210 - Calley Means & Casey Means, MD

And so if the EPA says that a particular pesticide is safe, then state by state, it's going to be similar to the vaccines where people cannot sue for harm caused by pesticide injury if it's got the label that the FDA said it was safe. So it's like, oh, well, this is going to create less complexity for farmers and we're going to have less litigation. But it's the devil's in the details.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2210 - Calley Means & Casey Means, MD

And so if the EPA says that a particular pesticide is safe, then state by state, it's going to be similar to the vaccines where people cannot sue for harm caused by pesticide injury if it's got the label that the FDA said it was safe. So it's like, oh, well, this is going to create less complexity for farmers and we're going to have less litigation. But it's the devil's in the details.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2210 - Calley Means & Casey Means, MD

And so, you know, I think that all that is to say, I think COVID broke something open that is good because it's basically giving people the courage in the face of total insanity that happened to ask why and to be a And but there's you know, there's a lot to clean up.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2210 - Calley Means & Casey Means, MD

And so, you know, I think that all that is to say, I think COVID broke something open that is good because it's basically giving people the courage in the face of total insanity that happened to ask why and to be a And but there's you know, there's a lot to clean up.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2210 - Calley Means & Casey Means, MD

And so, you know, I think that all that is to say, I think COVID broke something open that is good because it's basically giving people the courage in the face of total insanity that happened to ask why and to be a And but there's you know, there's a lot to clean up.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2210 - Calley Means & Casey Means, MD

And I think that just seeing it firsthand in the health care system, like I have a little cynicism about it because of the way the incentives are in the business model. But I think like Callie said, with executive leadership, this could change rapidly.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2210 - Calley Means & Casey Means, MD

And I think that just seeing it firsthand in the health care system, like I have a little cynicism about it because of the way the incentives are in the business model. But I think like Callie said, with executive leadership, this could change rapidly.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2210 - Calley Means & Casey Means, MD

And I think that just seeing it firsthand in the health care system, like I have a little cynicism about it because of the way the incentives are in the business model. But I think like Callie said, with executive leadership, this could change rapidly.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2210 - Calley Means & Casey Means, MD

I was just going to say, the immediate response to what Callie's saying is that's going to decrease access. People are going to starve. This is an equity issue. People can't afford regenerative agriculture. Yeah, by design, right? That is also a systems issue. The fact that people can't afford that food is because we're subsidizing the shitty food.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2210 - Calley Means & Casey Means, MD

I was just going to say, the immediate response to what Callie's saying is that's going to decrease access. People are going to starve. This is an equity issue. People can't afford regenerative agriculture. Yeah, by design, right? That is also a systems issue. The fact that people can't afford that food is because we're subsidizing the shitty food.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2210 - Calley Means & Casey Means, MD

I was just going to say, the immediate response to what Callie's saying is that's going to decrease access. People are going to starve. This is an equity issue. People can't afford regenerative agriculture. Yeah, by design, right? That is also a systems issue. The fact that people can't afford that food is because we're subsidizing the shitty food.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2210 - Calley Means & Casey Means, MD

So it's like that's why at every level, you know, the immediate backlash to saying any of this is that, oh, that's elitist, classist, racist, whatever, you know, because not everyone can afford this. But that is literally by design. And that could be changed as well.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2210 - Calley Means & Casey Means, MD

So it's like that's why at every level, you know, the immediate backlash to saying any of this is that, oh, that's elitist, classist, racist, whatever, you know, because not everyone can afford this. But that is literally by design. And that could be changed as well.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2210 - Calley Means & Casey Means, MD

So it's like that's why at every level, you know, the immediate backlash to saying any of this is that, oh, that's elitist, classist, racist, whatever, you know, because not everyone can afford this. But that is literally by design. And that could be changed as well.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2210 - Calley Means & Casey Means, MD

Of course we'll make this happen.