Casey Means, MD
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first heard Oct 2024
last heard Oct 2024
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You know, and doctors then don't get a single minute of nutrition education in 80 percent of medical schools. So you just imagine like. We've got people who want to be healthy. We truly believe that Americans want to be healthy. And for the first time in many years, this could be an opportunity for that to be aligned with the country's vision and priority as opposed to adversarial to it.
And I think that that, you know, Jason Karp in the Senate hearing. who's one of the co-founders of Who Kitchen, talked about if 5% of revenue of some of these big companies like Kellogg's and General Mills drops because people are no longer willing to buy these food because there's a real movement about it, they will change. They will re-innovate towards what people actually want.
But right now, it's controversial to even push. You exercise your far right. You know, you have to have so much strength to be healthy in this country. And not only that, you have to have financial resources and strength, strength of courage. And so, you know, he says, yeah, if people change their buying decisions, which I think will be easier to do culturally now,
If we are talking about these things on the highest level, then it's going to change. I think also I think a potential light filled vision of what could happen is that some of these companies might adapt to consumer demand and do better, do better processes. Like we need as we need to get back to American agriculture being regenerative agriculture. We're totally screwed if we don't do that.
We cannot continue with this mass poisoning of our farmland. Not only is it horrible for our farmers who are dying at astronomical rates from chronic disease, but it's terrible for our children and our bodies. And if people start understanding that because people like RFK are in the leadership positions and that's becoming part of the zeitgeist,
It will change the way people buy and what they're willing to tolerate. But right now, the norm, because of corrupt incentives in a rigged system, is to be unhealthy. And I think when people get permission to push back against that, we could see an incredibly bright, beautiful future in a very short period of time in America. We believe that's possible.
I never ever learned in medical school or residency that I could write a prescription for food or exercise. It's totally legal. And if you do that, it can be covered by, you can use tax advantage dollars tax-free. Never learn that in nine years.
That is right now legal. I never learned that. It's called a letter of medical necessity.
Trust yourself, not your doctor. But like the evidence on chronic conditions, which is where they have abjectly failed.
Like, like, like, like, yeah. Yeah, I mean, if you think about what's happened over the past 50 years, all of these chronic diseases are exploding. And the more we medicate them, the higher the disease rates are. Like the more SSRIs we prescribe, the more depression we're getting. The more metformin we're prescribing, type 2 diabetes rates are going up.
The more clomiphene we are prescribing, the more we're having to do IVF procedures. You know, it's not making sense. The more hypertension, ACE inhibitors, you know, beta blockers, the more hypertension is going up. And so it doesn't really make sense that we would say, oh, they're crushing it on these diseases by prescribing more pills.
We're prescribing 221 million prescriptions for statins per year, and heart disease is continuing to be the leading cause of death in the United States. This doesn't make... any sense. And, you know, it's like Callie's saying, like, it is a free country and people should be allowed to make choice, but we don't need to pay for the bad choices for people, which is what we're doing.
We're incentivizing sugar. We're putting it in their school lunches. We are also making those foods cheaper. Through the farm bills and through our complete and utter support of $500 billion program, the farm bill program. And it's all, in terms of the crops subsidies, going towards commodity crops that are turned into ultra-processed foods and making them cheaper. Less than 1%.
of the entire Farm Bill budget goes towards fruits, vegetables, nuts, beans, legumes.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, if all these medications were crushing it and there were no side effects, everyone should probably take them. Yes. Right? But if that's not really the case, then we need to silence anything that talks about it.
I think COVID, obviously, as you've said, like it broke something open. It broke something open that I feel like is light because it's awareness. And, you know, I was probably a little more cynical having been in the health care system going into COVID because I was raised as a young surgeon with the mantra, as a surgeon, you eat what you kill.
Like that is the unofficial mantra of the surgical world, which is that as a private practice surgeon, what you eat, i.e. what your salary is going to be, is what you kill, how many surgeries you sell and book. And so it was very black and white to me to understand that the financial security of everyone in the health care system is dependent on how much we actually do to people, how much we –
unfortunately see these bodies essentially a box that we can either take things out of or put things in a in you know surgery is taking things out um or put medications in like that's it's very dark that's why i left that's why i literally just put down my scalpel because i was heading out of residency into private practice and i thought i can't i can't do this i can't that's crazy right that this is like the business model of my industry because it's very personal and then
You know, I had a really good friend who was with me in the hallway before taking a job as a as a cancer surgeon and, you know, tearful saying, you know, I don't know if I can do this. Like when people come through the doors of the surgical oncology department here, they are going to get a surgery whether they need it or not. Those are her exact words. And this is this is because it is. And again.
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