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Casey Newton

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Our Field Trip to Google I/O + A Sit-Down With Sundar Pichai + System Update

I saw some ube croissants on my way in.

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Our Field Trip to Google I/O + A Sit-Down With Sundar Pichai + System Update

I'm still trying to figure out what that means, but I'm going to go try it out.

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Our Field Trip to Google I/O + A Sit-Down With Sundar Pichai + System Update

Perfect.

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Our Field Trip to Google I/O + A Sit-Down With Sundar Pichai + System Update

So I did try to use anti-gravity, their kind of coding assistant, to put the model through some of my own evaluations.

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Our Field Trip to Google I/O + A Sit-Down With Sundar Pichai + System Update

And it seems like two things are true.

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Our Field Trip to Google I/O + A Sit-Down With Sundar Pichai + System Update

One is it's very fast.

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Our Field Trip to Google I/O + A Sit-Down With Sundar Pichai + System Update

It's very fast and you don't hit your sort of token limits at all, like very quickly, which is a nice contrast to some of the other coding models that I've used.

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Our Field Trip to Google I/O + A Sit-Down With Sundar Pichai + System Update

And the second thing is that it just doesn't seem like that much of an improvement over what is out there now.

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Our Field Trip to Google I/O + A Sit-Down With Sundar Pichai + System Update

I think there have been some people on my feeds talking about how they are feeling disappointed by the new Gemini model.

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Our Field Trip to Google I/O + A Sit-Down With Sundar Pichai + System Update

There's some indications that it's maybe not as good as Gemini 3.1 Pro at some coding evaluations.

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Our Field Trip to Google I/O + A Sit-Down With Sundar Pichai + System Update

But it is much faster.

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Our Field Trip to Google I/O + A Sit-Down With Sundar Pichai + System Update

And I think the other thing that people are reacting to is the cost factor.

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Our Field Trip to Google I/O + A Sit-Down With Sundar Pichai + System Update

So the cost of Gemini 3.5 Flash, while lower than other kind of frontier models, is significantly more expensive than the last version of Gemini Flash.

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Our Field Trip to Google I/O + A Sit-Down With Sundar Pichai + System Update

So people are upset about that.

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Our Field Trip to Google I/O + A Sit-Down With Sundar Pichai + System Update

But I think in general, my sense is like,

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Our Field Trip to Google I/O + A Sit-Down With Sundar Pichai + System Update

It's a good model.

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Our Field Trip to Google I/O + A Sit-Down With Sundar Pichai + System Update

It's a pretty good model.

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Our Field Trip to Google I/O + A Sit-Down With Sundar Pichai + System Update

It's not like blowing me away, but it is quite fast.

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Our Field Trip to Google I/O + A Sit-Down With Sundar Pichai + System Update

And if you are a company that's burning, you know, billions of tokens a day, you might be interested in that.

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Our Field Trip to Google I/O + A Sit-Down With Sundar Pichai + System Update

But for the average person, I would say like nothing about it has made me want to switch to it as my daily driver yet.