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Casey Newton

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OpenAI’s Big Reset + A.I. in the Doctor’s Office + Talkie, a pre-1930s LLM

I think the interesting subtext to me is that Amazon for a number of years now has been pretty closely tethered to Anthropic as its primary sort of frontier model developer.

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OpenAI’s Big Reset + A.I. in the Doctor’s Office + Talkie, a pre-1930s LLM

And so OpenAI is kind of taking advantage of its newfound freedom by trying to elbow into Amazon and maybe displace Anthropic as their favorite model provider.

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OpenAI’s Big Reset + A.I. in the Doctor’s Office + Talkie, a pre-1930s LLM

That's great analysis.

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OpenAI’s Big Reset + A.I. in the Doctor’s Office + Talkie, a pre-1930s LLM

Thank you.

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OpenAI’s Big Reset + A.I. in the Doctor’s Office + Talkie, a pre-1930s LLM

Yeah, and I think that's a good point, and it's really a profound shift in the way that skeptics have been talking about this AI boom.

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OpenAI’s Big Reset + A.I. in the Doctor’s Office + Talkie, a pre-1930s LLM

I remember just even a couple of months ago, the leading sort of strain of criticism was that

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OpenAI’s Big Reset + A.I. in the Doctor’s Office + Talkie, a pre-1930s LLM

These AI companies would never be able to generate the demand to pay for all of the expensive data centers and infrastructure projects they wanted to do.

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OpenAI’s Big Reset + A.I. in the Doctor’s Office + Talkie, a pre-1930s LLM

And now that's shifted to, well, there's so much demand.

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OpenAI’s Big Reset + A.I. in the Doctor’s Office + Talkie, a pre-1930s LLM

What if they can't build enough to support the demand they have?

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OpenAI’s Big Reset + A.I. in the Doctor’s Office + Talkie, a pre-1930s LLM

Yes, this was another story that hit this week.

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OpenAI’s Big Reset + A.I. in the Doctor’s Office + Talkie, a pre-1930s LLM

The Financial Times reported that Stargate, OpenAI's joint $500 billion infrastructure project, is also undergoing a bit of a shift.

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OpenAI’s Big Reset + A.I. in the Doctor’s Office + Talkie, a pre-1930s LLM

The FT reported that in recent weeks, OpenAI has halted planned data centers in the UK and Norway, declined to expand its flagship site in Abilene, Texas, and seen several senior figures tied to Stargate leave for rival Meta.

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OpenAI’s Big Reset + A.I. in the Doctor’s Office + Talkie, a pre-1930s LLM

The FT further notes that OpenAI has shifted to leasing capacity from third parties instead of building out all of their own facilities.

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OpenAI’s Big Reset + A.I. in the Doctor’s Office + Talkie, a pre-1930s LLM

Casey, what did you make of this?

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OpenAI’s Big Reset + A.I. in the Doctor’s Office + Talkie, a pre-1930s LLM

I don't think this signals that they are retreating from their compute ambitions.

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OpenAI’s Big Reset + A.I. in the Doctor’s Office + Talkie, a pre-1930s LLM

I think it's more about they are realizing that if they want to go public, which they do, they need to get their house in order.

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OpenAI’s Big Reset + A.I. in the Doctor’s Office + Talkie, a pre-1930s LLM

One way to get your house in order is to move some of this data center and infrastructure building off of your balance sheet and onto third parties.

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OpenAI’s Big Reset + A.I. in the Doctor’s Office + Talkie, a pre-1930s LLM

Yeah, I mean, I think there are competing forces within all of the big AI companies right now.

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OpenAI’s Big Reset + A.I. in the Doctor’s Office + Talkie, a pre-1930s LLM

One side is sort of the indefinite optimists, the people who think that demand for AI is just going to be essentially infinite and that as much compute and as much money as they need to spend acquiring compute, it will all be paid back many times over because the world is about to change into something different.

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OpenAI’s Big Reset + A.I. in the Doctor’s Office + Talkie, a pre-1930s LLM

most of us barely recognize.