Casey Newton

Also seems really relevant to say that TikTok and Snap settled before the trial.

Like that was the moment when I said, okay, like they must be really, really scared.

And I was actually waiting for Meta and YouTube to settle as well.

Once that happened, I think it was clear they were in a lot of trouble.

it is very tricky and you have to articulate it with some degree of nuance.

To me, I separate the internet problems from the platform problems.

Really, Nilay, the internet is what gave us our careers.

The internet is what knocked down the gatekeepers, let us sort of, in my case, hang out a shingle on the internet and say, hey, I'll email you for money.

That is something that did not really exist in the pre-internet times.

The platform

form problems are different, right?

And they have a lot to do with algorithmic amplification, yes, but also these design features, right?

This feeling we've been talking about, like, I don't want to look at TikTok as much as I'm looking at, I don't know how to stop, I have tried to stop, or I bought some device that bricks my phone when I walk in the door, right?

These are the problems of

creating a platform whose only incentives will ever be to get you to look at it as much as humanly possible.

So that's why I think the scrutiny is finally drifting over to those things, right?

We don't want to get rid of an internet.

We don't want to get rid of your right to be able to post your opinion online.

We want to get rid of this kind of machine that just increasingly seems like it's taking more and more of your time and attention in ways that make you feel bad.

Their reaction is really negative.