Cass

If you're having those intrusive thoughts or the flashbacks or if your heart is racing or your stomach's clenching, it's like you're reliving it or you're still feeling it.

And so that's affecting your experience, but not only the effects to the individual, but the effects on relationships or whether they're able to maintain a job.

Yeah.

That's really hard.

Do you find in general people delay seeking treatment because they're confused about what's happening?

Were you saying before EMDR can be quite helpful at times?

Could you maybe try and explain that?

It's more holistic in that you're addressing the nervous system and the psychological aspects together and the physical.

Yeah.

We've talked about some of the great treatments that are available and do work for some people, some of the time or a lot of the time with depression and PTSD, acknowledging that sometimes people with those conditions are resistant to the current treatments that we have.

So I first heard about psychedelic assisted therapies a couple of years ago on the Tim Ferriss podcast.

Are you familiar with him?

And he personally has invested financially, like funded a lot of research into psychedelics.

And he had some people on talking about psychedelics.

how they were using particular substances in particular doses and combining it with psychotherapy and getting some great results for people with long-term depression or even PTSD.

Until Ricky mentioned that you went to a conference, I think it was a few months ago in Colorado, and he said you were talking about

psychedelic assisted therapy there.

I wasn't aware that we now have some trained therapists practicing this in Australia.

I wanted to have you on to talk about that because I want to give people hope that there are some new treatments coming for people.

So if you could please explain a bit of the history about this psychedelics and the therapy and how it's being used in practice.