Cassie McCullagh

And Kate, we saw him win the New South Wales Premier's Award earlier this year.

Kim Scott, author of Taboo on the bookshelf that made him.

I went back and had a look at that recently.

It's quite kooky.

It's worth a revisit, actually.

Yeah.

Oh, well, a range of different things.

But I think I've spotted a big trend, Kate.

There's a couple of books around at the moment that made me think that perhaps...

Some of our newspaper writers are turning into also a kind of swathe of some of our great writers of the time.

The buzz around this is quite incredible.

The rights have been sold all around the world.

It's going to be huge.

It is fiction, but it is also based on his life, which was quite a hard childhood he went through in Queensland growing up, and that's what's at the heart of this book called Boy Squallows Universe.

Now, I was telling you about it, but you're so far ahead of me, Kate.

Not only have you read it, you're interviewing him this weekend at the Mullaney Writers' Festival.

Well, I think this is going to become an instant classic given just some of the buzz that I've been hearing recently

about it.

And I've enjoyed what I've read so far.

But also it comes after a couple of other books in a similar vein.