Cassie McCullagh

Look at you both looking at me like I'm an idiot.

Great to have you along, Stephen.

Really good.

Thank you.

Great to be here.

And maybe if you agree with Stephen or if you agree with me, it'd be interesting to know what you think when you've had a chance to read this.

So if you want to get in touch with us, go to our program page and you can do it there.

Love to hear what you think about this book, Warlight.

Well, you're listening to The Bookshelf on ABCRN with me, Cassie McCullough, and an enormous stack of books and also Kate Evans.

She's over there somewhere.

Let's meet some more readers, some people who've done some reading for us.

Bernadette Brennan is an academic and specialist in Australian writing whose latest book is A Writing Life, Helen Garner and Her Work.

Welcome, Bernadette.

Great to have you.

Great to be here.

Thanks for having me.

Hi, Suzanne.

Oh, to be a fly on the wall for one of those conflicts that you have to resolve.

Bernadette, you're also a judge of literary awards.

How hard is it to kind of compare apples and oranges, I suppose?