Cassie McCullagh

Michael Delaney?

And there's something very nice about the restraint that they didn't make it a novel that might have been baggy or might not have sustained and they kept it as a short story.

Brett Evans, how are you thinking about short fiction now?

Well, thank you all so much.

Today's guests were essayist Michael Delaney, who has a piece in the latest Griffith Review with the lovely title, A Bird Flew from the Mournful Left on Climate Change Refugees.

We were talking about titles.

That's a very good one.

Journalist Brett Evans and writer Rowana Gonsalves, whose own collection of short stories, we should say, The Permanent Resident, is published by UWA Press.

Thank you so much to all of you.

Thanks so much.

You did.

I'm so sorry that you weren't here with us, Miss Cassie.

And we will get back to it on the bookshelf.

But for now, I reckon we're probably done because we've got an awful lot of reading options there.

And all of those writers that we heard about today, I think they all do long form fiction as well.

But back to novels next week, Pat Barker's new one, The Silence of the Girls.

Now, you're a Pat Barker fan too, aren't you, Cassie?

Well, this latest one also concerns wartime, but it takes us into the ancient world.

But what else?

We're both going to be reading Louis de Bernier's new book, So Much Life Left Over.