Cassie McCullough

I mean, what do you make of its writing, Johan?

Tim Winton's Breath is published by Penguin.

Yeah, we'll be reading Gail Jones's just released novel, Our Shadow, set in Kalgoorlie in Western Australia.

And our older title to read alongside it is Randolph Stowe's The Merry-Go-Round in the Sea, which was first published in 1965.

I'm Kate Evans.

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I will not let your shadow hang over me.

Thank you, Cassie, and hello.

I am.

It's called Guru Futurism, Stories of Sovereignty and Survival from Bundjalung Country, Culture and Community.

So for the creative component of that degree, I'm writing a short story collection.

So the stories are all set in the Tweed, which is where I live and where I grew up, which is on Bundjalung Country.

So they're all set on Bundjalung Country and they're all set in the future, but they're all set in a different version of the future.

So that's how they're all tied together, but also how they're different.

So all of the stories centre Bundjalung characters and community and just the way I might envision the community to be in the future, given different kind of climate concerns and

political structures and other things.

Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

That's a good way of looking at it.

So Guru Futurism is a place-based offspring of Indigenous Futurism, which came from Afrofuturism.