Cassie McCullough

She employs a lot of campground women, including her own family.

In the school, the kids actually describe that laundry as the kind of lifeblood or the arteries of Dunmore.

And it is true, and it's invisible work, and it's work that a lot of black women have done, whether paid or unpaid, over the last few centuries.

And this is the kind of work that keeps, you know, rich people in clean clothes and with meals on their tables and their children looked after.

And these stories aren't – well, they haven't been told a lot.

And now we have a lot more Aboriginal writers who are telling these stories.

And I think it's great because –

I think from the 60s and 70s, feminism's always said that, you know, women's work is invisible work.

Well, if that's true, then black women's work has been even more invisible.

So it's nice to see these stories coming up.

Yeah, absolutely.

And again, like, you know, these are things that have always happened.

The reason why, you know, culture was never stamped out despite, you know, centuries of trying is because people always held on to culture and taught it and passed it on.

And whether it's in ways like these little

symbols and things, you know, and their meanings being passed on and language, you know, which comes through really strongly in the book.

It was never totally successful.

And that's why we're having such a great cultural revitalization around language and things like that these days, because of those really staunch old people who

They kept culture hidden and they passed it on secretly.

Oh, look, it wasn't surprising.

I was kind of nodding along, you know, going, yeah, this is what happens because I think maybe I've been exposed to these stories all my life.