Cassie McCullough

Yeah, it's best not to think of it sometimes, isn't it?

This is The Bookshelf on ABC Radio National, on air, online and on the ABC Listen app.

And if you sign up for the podcast that comes via the app, there are also regular podcast extras, little interviews and different things going on.

Anyway, I'm Cassie McCullough.

I'm here with Kate Evans.

And today our guests are Emily McGuire and Aoife Clifford.

OK, well, quite a lot of bloodshed and intrigue on this week's edition of The Bookshelf.

Fantastic reviews.

Thank you to you both, Emily Maguire and to Aoife Clifford for being our guests today.

Emily Maguire, novelist and writing teacher.

Her books include Princesses and Pawn Stars, Sex, Power and Identity, and the novel An Isolated Incident.

Aoife Clifford is a novelist and a bookseller.

Her books include All These Perfect Strangers and Second Sight.

So you've still got time to read the book we will be discussing, N.K.

Jemisin's The City We Became.

So get onto it and join us next time for that.

You'll find all the details, obviously, on our website.

Bye for now.

I'm Cassie McCullough and have we got some new books for you, as we do pretty much every week.

And we'll travel into the coldest of winters in World War II in Stephen Conti's The Tolstoy Estate, another Australian writer.