Cassie McCullough

And as if it wasn't enough, the Booker Prize winner, Douglas Stewart, author of Shuggie Bain.

Kate, what can you tell us?

That will be a knockout.

That is something to look forward to this evening if you're listening on Friday.

And you can find it online if you're listening on Monday night.

That will be great.

But look, I'm just looking at the program and there is one high wire act which I think is going to be fascinating because Andy Ford, Andrew Ford from the music show, is taking on not one but two of the world's great writers of the time and that is David Mitchell as well as Andrew O'Hagan and they're talking about music and literature.

David Mitchell, of course, known for everything, the bone clocks, what are the ones of his...

And then Andrew O'Hagan, that book that I know you loved, Kate, The Mayflies.

Oh, Mayflies.

Yeah, and it was partly based on Andrew O'Hagan's experience of life in the 80s, going to see some of the bands of the age as a young Scottish man.

I was really excited about this one.

I'm dying for that one.

Yes, I once made the mistake when I was interviewing Andrew Ford himself about a book that he had written.

And I quoted that thing that Frank Zappa had said that writing about music was like dancing about architecture.

And Andrew just said, oh, that's apocryphal.

He never said that.

And that's precisely why we invited Andrew Ford to have that conversation with those two writers.

Oh, what a brain.

Okay, well, that's some seriously good stuff.