Cassie McCullough

Like I resented having to read a good book.

What do you mean?

It's because you've got to open up your heart, and that's valuable real estate to me at the moment.

My heart's busy.

It's on other things.

It's on children and relationships and all kinds of problems.

And yeah, I didn't have any space for a good book.

I want a crappy book right now.

And, um, yeah, so I picked this one up and I was just, even before I'd started reading it, you know, I'm holding the book and going, oh yeah, okay.

And I'm seeing the, the rings in the, in the side of the book of the tree and all that's interesting.

Then I saw the table of contents and I went, oh God, all right, this is going to be good, isn't it?

And then I'm like turning every page and I'm really, I'm in like three pages, three pages in and it's taken up half my heart, you know.

And, you know, and people are screaming at me, put that effing book down, you know.

But I'm reading it and reading it and I'm going, oh, no, I'm going to have to pay for this.

Yeah, I just, I did really love it, even though I didn't particularly want to.

This is an ABC podcast.

All right, this is going to be good, isn't it?

I mean, his writing is so crisp, is so matter-of-fact.

It goes down so easily.

Hang on, I've got to put my glasses on because I don't think I can recognise you anymore.