Catherine Carlile

That just comes out your mouth, just like that.

You can cry, Glennon. You know, in the production office, we have a crying corner. I think we should have one at the festival, too. We need some crying corners.

We're all friends here.

I mean, I think it's completely unplanned, honestly. It's interesting because for us to be together, I had to emigrate. And I left my entire community behind. Maybe some of them are here. I don't know. They're probably drinking tequila somewhere. So I was kind of starting over with no friends and family and it was just Brandy.

And she already had this established community and family and friends around her. And I think initially I had like a little bit of resistance to it because I was a bit of a hermit too. Like I kind of... But... I honestly don't know how I could have made that transition without being welcomed immediately by her community. And I think it's so incredibly important. They didn't really know who I was.

They hadn't met my friends, they hadn't really met my family, but they fully embraced me. And I remember for our London wedding, Tim comes to the London wedding, and I think it was the first time he'd met my community. And he pulled me aside and he said, you've got so many friends. And I was like, well, yeah, I lived 30 years before I met Brandy.

And he said, he goes, if I'm honest, I was wondering whether you were a total loner and you had just kind of come over and, you know, moved to America. And it just cracked me up because, uh, what was the question? It doesn't matter. We will listen to you. Talk is essential. It's essential. Community is essential.

It had to be scheduled. It had to be scheduled. British people schedule things, okay? We schedule cups of teas and FaceTime meeting and like months in advance. Yeah. So if your doorbell rings in Britain, you're like... Who is that? Yeah. And why are they here?

And how... Right? Like our daughter sometimes.

Yeah, I think if you're an empath, it can be exhausting.

Well, Brandy's stamina is just kind of unbelievable. The stamina for performance and people and... She just, she... Is there a little sexual innuendo in there somewhere?

I'll let you make up your minds about that. But she's like the last one standing. I mean, me and the twins are like, can we leave this place? And she's like, just... So I think it's like a battery power thing. Like, I hide in bathrooms sometimes just to recharge and go back out so I can keep up with her. So, I mean, would that be true in your case?

Like, actually, when she does, when her batteries do die, it's instant. And there are signs of that happening. It looks like this. And then I'm like, oh, it's happened, it's happened. Somebody save her, somebody save her.

Well, I don't know about that. But it's funny. It's like a dance, isn't it? There's signals. You know, when somebody's tapped out, you kind of step in and you take the reins. One of Brandy's signals, which is really hilarious, is that when we have house guests sometimes and she's done, she goes to the piano and starts playing music.

And I'm like, if you want people to leave your house, don't fucking go and play piano. No.

Can anyone else answer this question? I mean, I think I struggle with the exact same thing, honestly. It's, gosh, I wish I knew the answer to this question. Does anyone?

to grow with your children well listening to them I find myself talking over my kids a lot and I try to catch myself when it happens and more often than not they catch me doing it and my little Elijah she's No, listen. No, listen to me. No, mom, listen. And I'm like, okay, you have my attention. I think children just really show us everything we need to know about ourselves ultimately.

They're like, I don't want to sound cliched, but they really are a mirror. That's good.

oh gosh every day that you have yeah I struggle with mum guilt every single day several times a day and it's something I still struggle with and I don't even know where it comes from I think parenting is just really difficult you're never going to feel like you're really winning most of the time you're going to feel like you're failing but I think it's just really human and I don't know.

I really don't know the answer to this. You speak. Somebody else speak.

What was it? What was it?

Glennon, you said something really clever post-election result to me on a separate text thread, where you said, less empire, more community. And I think that just, as Glennon does, she just encapsulated how we should be moving forward.

You could write a dissertation on forgiveness at this point.

It's true.

First of all, this is terrifying. Speaking of hard things, I don't know whose idea it was to give me a microphone and have me talk. But seriously, I just feel really proud, just proud of the lineup, proud of the work and effort it takes for our incredible crew and team to put this on. There are so many people responsible for this. Special shout out to Snelly Cat. She's out there somewhere.

And just really proud of the community that really built this. Because people keep saying, this is so amazing what you and Brandy have built here. And I say, it's not us, it's you. It's you. And for as long as you keep showing up, we'll keep showing up. And it's just a privilege and an honour to do this every year. Thank you.