Catherine Joy White

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24 appearances 1 recordings 1 series first heard Mar 2025 last heard Mar 2025

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And it was the strangest feeling because I was listening to her, and she's 40 years older than me, and she's German, and I've tried with all my might not to like her, but we so intrinsically understood each other. And I spoke to her about my uncle and about Simon, and she didn't ask how he did it or was he depressed or any of those questions that I'd become really resistant to hearing.
She just listened. without need for any explanation and I realized we've both come filled with sadness to this lake and spring turns into summer and we keep swimming and now we're not just in the fair weather sort of territory we've got other swimmers coming in so we we welcome them into our weird gang of misfits. And we slowly all swim together.
We have a WhatsApp group, and you message in it and see when you want to go for a swim, and there's always someone to swim with. And I began to realize, actually, we're all in this sort of strange place of coming to the water because we're looking for some form of connection. Now, I left that house, which was in Oxford, and that lake. I moved to London last summer.
And I don't swim every day anymore. I think I don't need it in that same visceral way. But every time I'm back in the water, I still feel that childhood excitement. And I feel that first icy dip. And I feel that sacred ritual of the time when I swam every morning because it kept me here. And I especially feel the healing that I found in the kindness of a stranger.
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