Catherine Porter
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In that bedroom at night when he's inviting men over, he's cut into a separate little either video or a photo to keep for himself. And through these 20,000 little data points, plus using his Skype conversations, they start tracking down these men and start arresting them in waves over many months.
Well, in the French press, they started calling them Monsieur Tout Le Monde, Mr. Everyman, because really, when you look at them... the guys who have been charged range in age from late 20s to in their 70s, their grandfathers. Many of them are fathers themselves. They kind of span all the range of middle class or working class men in small town France. They're truck drivers or carpenters.
Well, in the French press, they started calling them Monsieur Tout Le Monde, Mr. Everyman, because really, when you look at them... the guys who have been charged range in age from late 20s to in their 70s, their grandfathers. Many of them are fathers themselves. They kind of span all the range of middle class or working class men in small town France. They're truck drivers or carpenters.
One of them is an IT specialist in a bank, another is a journalist. A number of them have history of drug or alcohol abuse, and some of them have their own history of sexual assault in their own lives as children. But the thing that's the most remarkable about them is that they just seem like, you know, Your next-door neighbor. They could be your next-door neighbor.
One of them is an IT specialist in a bank, another is a journalist. A number of them have history of drug or alcohol abuse, and some of them have their own history of sexual assault in their own lives as children. But the thing that's the most remarkable about them is that they just seem like, you know, Your next-door neighbor. They could be your next-door neighbor.
And in the end, that's what really shocked a lot of French people is that they were their next-door neighbors.
And in the end, that's what really shocked a lot of French people is that they were their next-door neighbors.
Right, because most victims are offered the right to have a closed trial and most of them take it. I've covered a lot of rape trials in my career and almost never named the victim in them. I can think of only one other time because most rape victims don't want their names out there because there's a lot of shame around rape, even though it's completely...
Right, because most victims are offered the right to have a closed trial and most of them take it. I've covered a lot of rape trials in my career and almost never named the victim in them. I can think of only one other time because most rape victims don't want their names out there because there's a lot of shame around rape, even though it's completely...
undeserved, and there shouldn't be shame, but people feel culpable in some way. And so I fully expected her as a grandmother, as someone who was not a feminist activist before, to take the regular path of deciding to have her case be private. So I wrote the first story and I was very careful. We didn't want to identify her.
undeserved, and there shouldn't be shame, but people feel culpable in some way. And so I fully expected her as a grandmother, as someone who was not a feminist activist before, to take the regular path of deciding to have her case be private. So I wrote the first story and I was very careful. We didn't want to identify her.
So she had moved out of the town and she had changed her last name to her maiden name. So we could use her name as Giselle and that's it. And then her lawyer said to me that she seemed pretty sure she was going to go public. Huh. And I thought, you know, I just didn't believe it because I thought there's no way that the 71-year-old grandmother...
So she had moved out of the town and she had changed her last name to her maiden name. So we could use her name as Giselle and that's it. And then her lawyer said to me that she seemed pretty sure she was going to go public. Huh. And I thought, you know, I just didn't believe it because I thought there's no way that the 71-year-old grandmother...
would, when she got into court, decide to use her full name and to be the face of such a traumatic series of rapes. But in the end, she decided in a very poignant statement that she wanted shame to change size. She thinks there's no place for shame on the side of the victim. It should be placed on the side of the accused.
would, when she got into court, decide to use her full name and to be the face of such a traumatic series of rapes. But in the end, she decided in a very poignant statement that she wanted shame to change size. She thinks there's no place for shame on the side of the victim. It should be placed on the side of the accused.
And she makes this really brave and unusual decision to open her trial to the public and use her married name.
And she makes this really brave and unusual decision to open her trial to the public and use her married name.
Right. So she decides on the day that the trial opens that she will be known publicly as Giselle Pellico.
Right. So she decides on the day that the trial opens that she will be known publicly as Giselle Pellico.
Well, it meant that I could be in the courtroom together with many other journalists. I'm inside the courthouse now. It's a big room. There's a raised bench behind which five judges and two prosecutors sit. And then the very wide box that was built specially for this trial into the room. The courtroom was nothing like a courtroom I've ever reported in.