Catherine Rampell

and against Lisa Cook, who's another Fed governor.

I don't know.

I mean, Trump has certainly turned heel on lots of other people who thought that they had more of a shield than Kevin Warsh has.

I think few people in American history have done more to screw over farmers than Donald Trump has in a very compressed period of time.

If you look at what's happened to farm bankruptcies, they rose 46% last year.

And that's not only because of Trump policies, to be clear, but it's largely because of Trump policies through tariffs, which raise their input costs for things like fertilizer, for the equipment that they need.

The tariffs also led to countries around the

basically boycotting American goods.

China stopped buying soybeans entirely for a while.

And that's obviously hurt farmers in a lot of the states that you just rattled off.

You have Trump deporting a large share of their labor force.

The interest rates are really hurting farmers as well.

And then you have little noticed, I think, by much of the media, but the cancellation of a

these farmers, not just USAID and foreign aid programs that have been cut off that U.S.

farmers historically have been very supportive of because their crops and their meat products are being used to feed the world, but also here in the United States.

You have SNAP,

getting huge cuts, which the administration is bragging about, of course, saying that they've lifted people off of SNAP.

No, they've pushed people off of SNAP.

That hurts farmers.

And then a lot of other more niche programs related to school lunches and other kinds of domestic food assistance programs that historically have supported farmers and have given them a little more cushion, particularly because they get...