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Catherine Rampell

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
842 total appearances

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The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Robert Garcia: China Is Starting to Eclipse the U.S.

There's weird stuff happening.

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Robert Garcia: China Is Starting to Eclipse the U.S.

Yeah, and the question is, how credible is it?

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Robert Garcia: China Is Starting to Eclipse the U.S.

If the United States says the Strait is open, if the Iranian government says the Strait is open, if you are a company thinking about sending your commercial tanker through that Strait, do you believe it, right?

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Robert Garcia: China Is Starting to Eclipse the U.S.

Do you believe that you're not going to get hit by a drone or a mine or anything else?

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Robert Garcia: China Is Starting to Eclipse the U.S.

Does your crew believe it?

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Robert Garcia: China Is Starting to Eclipse the U.S.

Let's say it is officially open.

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Robert Garcia: China Is Starting to Eclipse the U.S.

Insurance company.

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Robert Garcia: China Is Starting to Eclipse the U.S.

All of those things add costs.

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Robert Garcia: China Is Starting to Eclipse the U.S.

Even if the tankers, you know, resume going through, resume transiting at the same rates that they were before, which I think is not likely to happen anytime soon.

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Robert Garcia: China Is Starting to Eclipse the U.S.

It's going to be much more costly because of all of that risk that's baked in there because people cannot unsee the fact that it has been closed and dangerous for a very long time.

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Robert Garcia: China Is Starting to Eclipse the U.S.

You know, you can't just like pretend it goes back.

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Robert Garcia: China Is Starting to Eclipse the U.S.

Yeah, I mean, that's already happened.

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Robert Garcia: China Is Starting to Eclipse the U.S.

To be fair, it's more than two months because it started with Liberation Day when he raised tariffs.

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Robert Garcia: China Is Starting to Eclipse the U.S.

Because what happens is

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Robert Garcia: China Is Starting to Eclipse the U.S.

Interest rates are related to what's happening in inflation, right?

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Robert Garcia: China Is Starting to Eclipse the U.S.

I think typical consumers are like, well, higher interest rates make things more expensive, so they're part of the problem.

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Robert Garcia: China Is Starting to Eclipse the U.S.

They're actually the solution to the inflation.

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Robert Garcia: China Is Starting to Eclipse the U.S.

It's not super intuitive.

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Robert Garcia: China Is Starting to Eclipse the U.S.

But basically what happens is when you have prices going up a lot,

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Robert Garcia: China Is Starting to Eclipse the U.S.

That means the Fed is more often than not going to raise interest rates to try to like squelch inflation.