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Catherine Rampell

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Michael Steinberger: Trump Wants to Cook the Books

So that's one possibility.

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Michael Steinberger: Trump Wants to Cook the Books

Now, a lot of companies have already been counting on that happening.

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Michael Steinberger: Trump Wants to Cook the Books

So you may not actually see a big change in behavior.

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Michael Steinberger: Trump Wants to Cook the Books

Like they're already assuming that the tariff money is coming back.

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Michael Steinberger: Trump Wants to Cook the Books

to them.

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Michael Steinberger: Trump Wants to Cook the Books

And so that's part of the reason why they may not have been raising prices as much as had been predicted or haven't been cutting back as much.

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Michael Steinberger: Trump Wants to Cook the Books

So I think you'll see some limited stimulus, ironically, from the Supreme Court, like undercutting Donald Trump's primary economic agenda.

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Michael Steinberger: Trump Wants to Cook the Books

So you'll see that.

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Michael Steinberger: Trump Wants to Cook the Books

I don't think you'll see prices come down.

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Michael Steinberger: Trump Wants to Cook the Books

Oh, yeah.

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Michael Steinberger: Trump Wants to Cook the Books

So that was, yeah, that was going to be part two of all of this, which is that the Trump administration has already been lining up alternative tariff mechanisms, which, to be clear, they could have been doing all along.

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Michael Steinberger: Trump Wants to Cook the Books

Like there are a bunch of things that they could have done that would be on more solid legal footing than what Trump has been doing.

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Michael Steinberger: Trump Wants to Cook the Books

But

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Michael Steinberger: Trump Wants to Cook the Books

they require some process and an investigation and reports and things like that, not just Trump like sneeze tweeting a new tariff rate.

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Michael Steinberger: Trump Wants to Cook the Books

So, yes, they're already lining that stuff up.

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Michael Steinberger: Trump Wants to Cook the Books

And to some extent, they could probably cobble together the same kinds of tariffs that they or at least

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Michael Steinberger: Trump Wants to Cook the Books

similar tariffs to what they've been doing just through a different legal authority, those will still be challenged.

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Michael Steinberger: Trump Wants to Cook the Books

They take a little bit longer to put in place.

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Michael Steinberger: Trump Wants to Cook the Books

And they might be a little bit harder for him to use as leverage when he's beating up on our allies, right?

The Bulwark Podcast
Catherine Rampell and Michael Steinberger: Trump Wants to Cook the Books

Because he can't just like suddenly say, aha, you France, you've pissed me off today.