Cathy Newman

No, it's really heartening, actually, because when I first started as a TV presenter, everybody was sort of like, oh, do you think you'll be able to carry on broadcasting into your 50s?

And I was like, well, yeah, why not?

You know, all the men do.

But yeah, funnily enough, in the last few years, no one asks that question anymore, which is great.

You know, that is something to celebrate, isn't it?

It is.

Yeah.

And I suppose you're always pinching yourself thinking, well, maybe maybe this is my last gig and then I'll get shuffled off.

But no, I mean, I feel now and also I always think that I feel like I'm in my 20s still, you know.

or whatever, it was Jon Snow, my presenting colleague at Channel 4 News for many years, always used to say, you know, that he felt like a teenager and behaved like one.

He didn't quite, but, you know.

I sort of always feel mentally that I'm still young and, you know, running around.

I've got loads of energy and everything.

And I feel that now, when you look at women in their 50s

several decades ago, our mother's generation, they kind of behaved older at 50, 51 I am.

And I feel now that there is this expectation that 51, you're just beginning to get into your stride and you're having all this fun and you've got all this experience and you care less about things and it's very energising.

The midlife man?

Yeah.

Oh, he had forgotten about that book.

20 years forgotten about that.