Cathy Newman

And, you know, that's the other thing about longevity is that you know that you do hundreds of interviews a year.

They're not all going to be the ones that you want to be in your...

You just I think you you just have to sort of deal with that.

And that is all.

I mean, I don't want to be too pretentious, but, you know, I sometimes think of I love one of my favorite texts in English is The Wife of Bath by Chaucer.

And, you know, she starts off about experience.

And I think that is.

over a period of your whole professional lifespan, there will be things that go well and there'll be things that don't.

And you just have to look at it in the round and feel whether you're happy doing what you've done and you've done what you set out to do.

Well, it's one of the things I've been reflecting on a lot because it's 15 years since I last worked in Westminster and the whole political landscape has been turned upside down.

The two-party system of old that we grew up with, really, that's all gone now.

And so it has been, and it's got much shoutier.

And I think we broadcasters have to adjust to that.

So the whole kind of four-minute interview round where they try and get their points across, you try and interrupt them because you haven't got time, you've only got four minutes and you want to get across a lot of subjects, that just feels increasingly pointless to me.

You don't learn anything.

The audience doesn't learn anything.

The politicians get cross because they haven't got across what they wanted to say.

I get cross because I haven't got everything asked that I wanted to ask.

So we're trying as much as possible in this new show to give more time to the interviews that matter, to do fewer, bigger interviews and to let things breathe and unfold and to sort of also show our own homework.

Like, you know, how do people come into the studio?