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Cece Moore

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
810 total appearances

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The Megyn Kelly Show
Golden State Killer, Crypto Convict, Genetic Genealogy - Megyn's "True Crime" Mega-Episode

Right.

The Megyn Kelly Show
Golden State Killer, Crypto Convict, Genetic Genealogy - Megyn's "True Crime" Mega-Episode

And so this is pretty common when investigative genetic genealogy has pointed law enforcement toward a certain individual or family, and they'll do what's called a trash pull.

The Megyn Kelly Show
Golden State Killer, Crypto Convict, Genetic Genealogy - Megyn's "True Crime" Mega-Episode

If they can't just follow that person and pick something up that they dropped and

The Megyn Kelly Show
Golden State Killer, Crypto Convict, Genetic Genealogy - Megyn's "True Crime" Mega-Episode

then they'll typically resort to waiting for that person to put their trash out on the curb.

The Megyn Kelly Show
Golden State Killer, Crypto Convict, Genetic Genealogy - Megyn's "True Crime" Mega-Episode

And most states allow this.

The Megyn Kelly Show
Golden State Killer, Crypto Convict, Genetic Genealogy - Megyn's "True Crime" Mega-Episode

It's considered abandoned at that point.

The Megyn Kelly Show
Golden State Killer, Crypto Convict, Genetic Genealogy - Megyn's "True Crime" Mega-Episode

And then they go through the trash and try to find an item that might have DNA on it.

The Megyn Kelly Show
Golden State Killer, Crypto Convict, Genetic Genealogy - Megyn's "True Crime" Mega-Episode

But when it's a home like this, a household where there's multiple people, they don't know exactly whose DNA they're going to get.

The Megyn Kelly Show
Golden State Killer, Crypto Convict, Genetic Genealogy - Megyn's "True Crime" Mega-Episode

So in this case, they found a male sample of DNA and tested it.

The Megyn Kelly Show
Golden State Killer, Crypto Convict, Genetic Genealogy - Megyn's "True Crime" Mega-Episode

And it wasn't the suspect's.

The Megyn Kelly Show
Golden State Killer, Crypto Convict, Genetic Genealogy - Megyn's "True Crime" Mega-Episode

However, they

The Megyn Kelly Show
Golden State Killer, Crypto Convict, Genetic Genealogy - Megyn's "True Crime" Mega-Episode

they were able to perform what is basically a standard paternity test comparison to the profile from the button on the sheath and determined that that individual's DNA from the trash was the father of the individual who left his DNA behind at the crime scene.

The Megyn Kelly Show
Golden State Killer, Crypto Convict, Genetic Genealogy - Megyn's "True Crime" Mega-Episode

Well, it's been accepted in courts for decades to establish paternity.

The Megyn Kelly Show
Golden State Killer, Crypto Convict, Genetic Genealogy - Megyn's "True Crime" Mega-Episode

It is extremely confident as we saw by the number 99.9998%.

The Megyn Kelly Show
Golden State Killer, Crypto Convict, Genetic Genealogy - Megyn's "True Crime" Mega-Episode

So that means that there's basically no one else on earth that could be the father of that individual.

The Megyn Kelly Show
Golden State Killer, Crypto Convict, Genetic Genealogy - Megyn's "True Crime" Mega-Episode

Now, by this point, that would become irrelevant because they would have collected his DNA upon arrest and done the direct comparison, the one-to-one against that court admissible genetic profile that is the one they originally compared against the law enforcement databases.

The Megyn Kelly Show
Golden State Killer, Crypto Convict, Genetic Genealogy - Megyn's "True Crime" Mega-Episode

Once they got the one-to-one match, the paternity match wouldn't matter anymore or any genetic genealogy that was done previously would all become irrelevant because they'd have that one-to-one match.

The Megyn Kelly Show
Golden State Killer, Crypto Convict, Genetic Genealogy - Megyn's "True Crime" Mega-Episode

And that's when we hear those numbers like one in 300 trillion chance that it's anyone else in the world.

The Megyn Kelly Show
Golden State Killer, Crypto Convict, Genetic Genealogy - Megyn's "True Crime" Mega-Episode

Yeah, and I'd want to circle back around to something when we talked about whether there was any other DNA left behind.

The Megyn Kelly Show
Golden State Killer, Crypto Convict, Genetic Genealogy - Megyn's "True Crime" Mega-Episode

When I first learned he was a criminology student, I thought he would have suited up like Dexter, you know, to make sure he didn't leave any DNA behind.