Cecily Zander

He raises horses, raises some dogs.

He loved dogs, which I think personally is a great quality.

Everything else aside.

But he had sort of had chronic, again, gout, illness, disease.

And we think that probably tuberculosis ultimately is what he succumbed to.

dies in deep debt and without much of a reputation at all it it's funny we american military history there is one lee that is among the great names and then one lee among the worst where they they weren't related in any way no no not the same lees well the takeaway from lee is don't shout at your boss certainly not if he's george washington there you go

Yeah, and I think, again, we see someone, you know, I talk to students a lot about sort of knowing your skill set, especially in classes on leadership and military history.

Gates was an incredible administrator and organizer.

And if he had been kept in that role within the Continental Army...

then I think he would be remembered among the great generals of the Revolutionary War.

But because, as you just said, they lacked great battlefield commanders, they had to use everybody they possibly had.

And Gates was not, despite his own assessment of Saratoga, a great battlefield commander.

He forgot sort of basic information.

And at Camden...

what happened was that he concentrated the bulk of his troops' attack against the British right.

And he should have known because he had served in the British Army and he knew something about tactics.

He was a professional military officer.

That's where the British Army concentrated their strength.

The strongest troops in the British line were always on the right side of the army.

And that's where Camden sort of concentrates his ineffective, weak attack.