Celisia Stanton

That's one of the things I've been kind of thinking about. We did in season two, the two part episode on the Manson murders and, you know, the women who were who had committed this murder alongside Manson.

That's one of the things I've been kind of thinking about. We did in season two, the two part episode on the Manson murders and, you know, the women who were who had committed this murder alongside Manson.

and were imprisoned you know like have had these very widely talked about parole hearings over the years and it's just been kind of interesting to hear what the family has had to say about that about how it's just so you know they have to like kind of go back into the spotlight every single time especially in that case because it's been covered so much and then they're sort of like fighting to essentially you know keep these folks behind bars because they feel like that's

and were imprisoned you know like have had these very widely talked about parole hearings over the years and it's just been kind of interesting to hear what the family has had to say about that about how it's just so you know they have to like kind of go back into the spotlight every single time especially in that case because it's been covered so much and then they're sort of like fighting to essentially you know keep these folks behind bars because they feel like that's

and were imprisoned you know like have had these very widely talked about parole hearings over the years and it's just been kind of interesting to hear what the family has had to say about that about how it's just so you know they have to like kind of go back into the spotlight every single time especially in that case because it's been covered so much and then they're sort of like fighting to essentially you know keep these folks behind bars because they feel like that's

you know, justice for their family member. And yeah, that's just definitely one of the like, the far reaching impacts of her initial Susan's initial actions. You know, we think about the victims, like she killed her kids. And that's so awful for even just those two boys, right, who were killed, but then the ripple effects go on and on and on. And the parole hearings is just one example of that.

you know, justice for their family member. And yeah, that's just definitely one of the like, the far reaching impacts of her initial Susan's initial actions. You know, we think about the victims, like she killed her kids. And that's so awful for even just those two boys, right, who were killed, but then the ripple effects go on and on and on. And the parole hearings is just one example of that.

you know, justice for their family member. And yeah, that's just definitely one of the like, the far reaching impacts of her initial Susan's initial actions. You know, we think about the victims, like she killed her kids. And that's so awful for even just those two boys, right, who were killed, but then the ripple effects go on and on and on. And the parole hearings is just one example of that.

Yeah, definitely. Definitely. Yeah, that doesn't fit with any framework with which I view the world. So I don't even know where to start with that. I mean, murder is murder is murder. And I think that there are differences, of course, in terms of the factors and what

Yeah, definitely. Definitely. Yeah, that doesn't fit with any framework with which I view the world. So I don't even know where to start with that. I mean, murder is murder is murder. And I think that there are differences, of course, in terms of the factors and what

Yeah, definitely. Definitely. Yeah, that doesn't fit with any framework with which I view the world. So I don't even know where to start with that. I mean, murder is murder is murder. And I think that there are differences, of course, in terms of the factors and what

and why it happened and whether or not it could have been prevented and whether or not the person who like pulled the trigger or in this case drove the car off the the dock has 100% responsibility or perhaps there are other people who also have responsibility but like if you kill somebody you killed somebody it doesn't really matter what your intent was but I would say that you know like her intent was to get rid of her children so her intent was malice I don't

and why it happened and whether or not it could have been prevented and whether or not the person who like pulled the trigger or in this case drove the car off the the dock has 100% responsibility or perhaps there are other people who also have responsibility but like if you kill somebody you killed somebody it doesn't really matter what your intent was but I would say that you know like her intent was to get rid of her children so her intent was malice I don't

and why it happened and whether or not it could have been prevented and whether or not the person who like pulled the trigger or in this case drove the car off the the dock has 100% responsibility or perhaps there are other people who also have responsibility but like if you kill somebody you killed somebody it doesn't really matter what your intent was but I would say that you know like her intent was to get rid of her children so her intent was malice I don't

Yeah, no, I definitely agree with that. I think that and, you know, similar to your point, I don't necessarily think that she should have gotten the death penalty anyway or that any of these people, you know, should they have committed the crime should have gotten the death penalty. But like, I do think it is worth acknowledging the differences in how people are treated. Yeah.

Yeah, no, I definitely agree with that. I think that and, you know, similar to your point, I don't necessarily think that she should have gotten the death penalty anyway or that any of these people, you know, should they have committed the crime should have gotten the death penalty. But like, I do think it is worth acknowledging the differences in how people are treated. Yeah.

Yeah, no, I definitely agree with that. I think that and, you know, similar to your point, I don't necessarily think that she should have gotten the death penalty anyway or that any of these people, you know, should they have committed the crime should have gotten the death penalty. But like, I do think it is worth acknowledging the differences in how people are treated. Yeah.

So it kind of it makes me think about the case of Joanne Little, which I covered in season one of my show True Crime. You know, and this is also a case in South Carolina. And this was a young woman who was being held at a local jail and she was attacked by the prison guard that was on duty and she ended up in defending herself.

So it kind of it makes me think about the case of Joanne Little, which I covered in season one of my show True Crime. You know, and this is also a case in South Carolina. And this was a young woman who was being held at a local jail and she was attacked by the prison guard that was on duty and she ended up in defending herself.

So it kind of it makes me think about the case of Joanne Little, which I covered in season one of my show True Crime. You know, and this is also a case in South Carolina. And this was a young woman who was being held at a local jail and she was attacked by the prison guard that was on duty and she ended up in defending herself.