Cenk Uygur
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And then Trump on top just blabbers out, well, sometimes if there's massive fraud in an election, in other words, I think I won. I don't even think that. I'm just saying that I won, right? He says you can terminate any rule, regulation, or article even in the Constitution.
No, brother, you cannot terminate the Constitution because you'd like to do a fake electoral scheme and do a coup against America. Fuck you. Okay, so I'm never going to allow this wannabe tyrant to go back into the White House and endanger our country. And so you want to endanger the corrupt system? I'm the guy. Okay, let's go get that corrupt system and tear it down.
If you want to endanger the real system, democracy, capitalism, the constitution, then I'm your biggest enemy. So I'm never going to take that risk. And you see it every time he goes to talk to a dictator. Look, guys, I'm asking you to be principled, right? I asked the left of that and we drive away some of our audience when we do that. So we got the balls to do that to our own side.
So for the right wing, be honest. If it was Joe Biden or Barack Obama or Kamala Harris that went and wrote, quote, unquote, love letters to a communist dictator who runs concentration camps. You would say, communist, we knew it. Look at that. And Trump literally says about Kim Jong-un, we wrote love letters to one another. We fell in love.
If a Democrat said that, they'd be politically decapitated, right? Their career would be instantly over. But Trump, whenever it's Xi Jinping, Vladimir Putin, don't get into Russia, Russia, Russia, but it's just that he's a strong man, right? Kim Jong-un or any... Victor Orban, Duterte in the Philippines. Anytime it's a strong man that... says, screw our Constitution, screw our rules.
I want total loyalty to one person. Trump loves him. He loves him. He said once, he's like, oh, it's great. You go to North Korea or China, and when the leader walks in, everybody applauds, and everybody listens to what he says. That's how we should be here. No, brother, that's not how we should be here. You hate democracy. You want to be the sole guy in charge.
As a populist, you should loathe Donald Trump.
So rigged is another one of those words that triggers people and is ill-defined, right? So let's begin to define it. So the worst case of rigged is, we actually changed the votes, right? So a lot of Trump people think that that's what happened. Nonsense, that didn't happen at all, okay?
So then you move, and by the way, some on the left thought the votes were changed in the 2016 primary and it was literally rigged against Bernie. No, that did not happen, okay? That is a massive crime and is very risky and is relatively easy to get caught. People who are in power are not interested in getting caught. They're not interested in going to jail, etc. It is a very extreme thing.
Could it happen? Yes, it could happen. Have I seen any evidence of it happening in my lifetime? Not really.
And by the way, for the right wing who say verify the vote, goddamn right, verify the vote, right? So you want to have different proposals like paper ballots, recounts, hand recounts, which by the way, you had not the paper ballots, but the three recounts and a hand recount in Georgia and so many of these swing states. He lost, he lost, he lost. There was no significant voter fraud.
Now, second thing in terms of... of rigging is voter fraud. So how, and the right wing believes, oh my God, it's voter fraud everywhere. Not remotely true. Heritage Foundation does a study. They want to prove it so badly. And it turns out no matter how much they move the numbers, the final number they got was, it happens every, 0.00006% of the time, okay? It almost never happens.
They found like 31 instances over a decade or two decades.
So a lot of times these days, it'll be Republicans who do it because it'll be, and it's not nefarious. It's a knucklehead who goes in and goes, oh, I heard they're having undocumented illegals vote. So I voted for me and my mom, even though she's dead. But that's fair. They're doing it. No, brother, that's not fair. That's not how it works. You're under arrest. So what about non-citizens voting?
So it's preposterous. Of course, non-citizens shouldn't vote and they don't vote. But there's not, you don't have to prove citizenship when you're voting, right? No, you do. I mean, so it depends on what you mean by prove and when you vote, right? So you're not allowed to vote as an undocumented immigrant. So that happens up front. When you go to, like, again, it's a hall of mirrors.
Like, there's so many different ways to create mirages. So the Republicans will say, well, when you go to the voting booth, they don't make you show a passport. Yeah, that's true, but you showed it earlier when you registered. Right. And so, and we can get into voter ID laws. There's all sorts of things, but we got to, we'll speed up the spectrum. Right. So these things almost never happen.
Voter fraud happens, but super rarely, uh, and not enough to swing elections. And by the way, sometimes if there is an issue, they'll redo an election. There is actually a process for that. And it happened in North Carolina because Republicans did voter fraud in this one district. Okay. And it wasn't the candidate himself. It was a campaign person and they did a ballot harvesting.
And then, but ballot harvesting, again, it depends on what you mean. If you're just collecting ballots, that's okay. He changed the ballots. That's not okay. And so they had to redo that election. So. Um, now the real place where it gets rigged is before elections. And there's two main ways that things get rigged. One is almost exclusively No, that's not fair.
I was going to say Republicans, but Democrats do it too in a different way. So Republicans will come in like Brian Kemp is the king of this in Georgia. So he was against Trump doing it ex post facto. He's like, no, you idiot. We don't cheat after the election. We cheat before the election. Okay. So they'll go, well, I mean, you got to clear out the voter rolls every once in a while.
And that's true because people die, people move, and you got to clean out the voter rolls. So then they come in and they go, we will clean them out mainly in black areas. Okay. Okay. Oh, look at that. There goes a couple of million black voters. Well, some of those, I suppose, are real voters, but they'll have to re-register and then they'll find that out on election day.