Cenk Uygur

And so, but then the third act shocks me. Biden steps down. She goes, grabs all those delegates in a super competent way that we talked about earlier. And then she goes out and gives a speech. I'm like, oh, that speech is good. Okay, another one, another one. I'm like, wait a minute, these are good speeches, no more word salads. Then she picks Tim Walz and shocks the world.

I'm like, that's a correct VP pick. That is a miracle, right? And then she goes and does the economically populist plan, all those proposals about housing that people care about, grocery prices that people care about. Real or not real, that is correct political strategy. So this Kamala Harris is back to the original Kamala Harris, who was a very competent, skilled politician.

So you have to give Kamala Harris ultimate credit because she's the leader of the campaign and she makes the final decisions. But there's apparently a couple of people inside that campaign that are ass kickers. And they have convinced her to take risk, which Democrats never take. And it is correct to take risk. You cannot get to victory without risk. So the vice president pick is the bellwether.

When Hillary Clinton picked Tim Kaine, I said, that's it, she's going to lose. Because Tim Kaine is playing prevent defense. He's wallpaper. I mean, he'd be lucky to be wallpaper. He's just a white wall, right? And when he speaks, it's white noise. He never says anything interesting. He's the most boring pick of all time. That's saying we already won, ha-ha, okay?

If Kamala Harris had picked Mark Kelly, that's the Tim Kaine equivalent, right? Okay. Oh, he's an astronaut. I don't give a shit that he's an astronaut. What is he saying? Is he a good politician? Does he have good policies? Is he exciting on the campaign trail? Is he going to add to your momentum? Mark Kelly, he might be a good guy, but number one, he's a very corporate Democrat. And number two,

It's like watching grass grow. Oh, he's terrible at speaking if you ask me, right? So I thought for sure she's going to pick Mark Kelly because that's what a normal Democrat does. Or if they want to go wild and crazy, they'll go to Bashir. So I was like, please let it be Shapiro because he's at least not bad. He's done some populist things and he's strategic. He's really smart.

I need smart candidates. Dumb candidates don't help. They don't have a mind of their own. They can't take risks. They're not independent thinkers. They're going to lose. So she picks the smartest, most populous candidate. Boom, boom, we got a winner. That's a good campaign.

Oh, that's not close, Kamala Harris will win. Yeah, unless she falls apart. Unless she goes back to the bad era, right? That's risk number three.

Yeah, we'll have to see, right? We'll have to see because she hasn't done any tough interviews. She hasn't really been challenged. So I hope to God that doesn't happen.

Oh, definitely, definitely. I'm, like, I'm... This is going to sound really funny. I'm too honest. But I am. Like, in the context of Kamala Harris probably shouldn't come on The Young Turks. We'd do a really tough interview, and it would hurt her, okay?

Yeah, it's a tricky one. Right. No, but Lex, the problem for her coming on our show isn't that we would be unfair to her. It's that we would be fair. So we would ask questions she is going to have trouble answering.

Right. I mean, like, so Biden said he was going to take the corporate tax rate to 28% and he barely tried. You say you're going to take it to 28%. Why should we trust you? Right. You guys said $15 minimum wage, and then you took it out of the bill. Why should we trust you? Right. Those are very tough questions. She's never going to get that in mainstream media.

Mainstream media is going to have faux toughness, but in reality, they're going to be softballs. Right. And so the debates you're right, Lex is, is a little bit easier because Sarah Palin proved that you could just memorize scripted talking points and And she admitted it later. She's like, she was super nervous.

She memorized the talking points and no matter what they asked, she just gave the talking point, which by the way, people barely noticed because that's what all politicians do. She just admitted it. And so no, Trump's a disaster in a debate. He's a, he's a one man wrecking crew of his own campaign. So any competent debater would eviscerate Donald Trump.

I mean, they just, on any given topic, when he says something, like here, let's take one lunatic conspiracy theory that he just had recently. And by the way, if you're a right-winger and you keep getting hurt every time I say he's a lunatic or I insult Donald Trump, don't, like, you sound like a left-winger. I'm offended. I'm offended. I'm offended. Get over it. Get over it. Okay.

So we, we have disagreements here. What the other side is saying. And by the way, I say the same thing to the left. Okay. I say you, you think everybody on the right's evil. You're crazy. No, they just have a different way of looking at the world, which by the way, is an interesting conversation. We should talk about that in a minute too. So I do it to both sides.

But okay, Trump says, oh, I don't think there's anyone at Kamala Harris's rallies. All the pictures are AI. Okay, so let's say he says that in a debate because he's liable to say anything, right? You just say, okay, so you think every reporter that was there, every photographer that was there, every human being that was there, They're all lying.

They have a conspiracy of thousands of people, but none of them were actually there. Do you understand how insane you sound?

Yeah. Yeah. So Trump is a massive risk because of all the things we talked about earlier, but there is a percentage chance that he's such a wild card that he overturns the whole system. And that is why the establishment is a little scared of him. So if he's in office, here, I'll give you a case of Donald Trump doing something right. Something wrong first and then something right.

So he bombs Soleimani, the top general of Iran, and kills him. That risks World War III. That risks a giant war with Iran that devolves Iran. It's four times the size of Iraq. If you're anti-war, you should have hated that he assassinated Soleimani. But after the assassination, Iran doesn't want to get into it, even though they're in a rage, and they do a small bombing.