Cenk Uygur

Now, when your costs are higher than your revenue, nighty night, it's been nice knowing you.

But what we need, guys, is like, sorry, last thing on that is we need the print guys like AP, Reuters, Intercept, the lever that Serota runs, whatever Ryan's working on now, it's at Ryan Grimm. We need those badly. We need someone to collect actual information and do the best they can in presenting it in an objective way. We all got to support that. So you can't lose text. That's so important.

The TV guys are just actors. You can lose them overnight and it won't hurt you. It'll help you.

But Lex, look at all the people who are the biggest now, because we've now had a couple of decades at this, right? So, and I mean, as an industry. So. I would argue you're huge and you don't do that. You don't do the conspiracy theories. You don't do the drama at all. Right. Um, Rogan is huge. Yeah. Maybe there's drama, but he's genuine. Right. I got a lot of issues with some of his policies.

I mixed opinions on Joe in a lot of different ways, but I don't doubt that he's genuine and people can sense that. Right. And he's huge. We're genuine. We're huge. So this is the market beginning to work.

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Yeah. Of course. Okay. And I've seen, like, I saw this Israeli MMA fighter taking on an anti-Semite who was huge and thought that, you know, he believed in like Nick Fuentes conspiracy theories or something. And the MMA fighter dismantled him and I loved it. Okay. And then he like, we tweeted back and forth, et cetera. So guys, first, let me just assure you, I get it.

So now let me tell you why I said it and then why I think it's a non-zero chance. So Michael Smirconish had written this blog about, like, I don't know, 10, 15 years ago on Huffington Post. We were both bloggers at that point about the wussification of America. Now he was saying the left is a bunch of wussies, right? So I wrote a blog saying, hey, Michael, I would rather debate you.

So if you want to debate about how we're wussies, let's do it. Let's find a way. But, you know, you're mentioning physicality, right, and how you guys are tougher. So if you prefer, only in a prescribed setting, right, and we're not going to go do it in the streets like idiots, right? But if you want, we'll have a boxing match or whatever you want, and we'll see who's tougher.

And he panicked and he cried to mommy, which was Ariana Huffington. And oh, Jake's intimidating me. Right. Okay. All right. Well, who, who's the wussy now, bitch. Right. So that is not to actually get into a fight with poor Michael Smarkonish. Right. It's to prove, hey, don't use rhetoric like that. That's dumb. And this is me proving that it's dumb. Okay.

So now Joe had said, I forget what he said at the time. And he'd said something similar. Right. And I'm up to here with Joe at that point. I don't know if we'll ever talking yet. Right.

No, no. Look, I'll give the same fairness. I think I got an 8% chance of beating Rogan. You're lost. I know. I got it. Hold on. And I think, to be fair, Alex has an 8% chance of beating me. Oh, wow. Okay. Okay. Because you never know. He catches you on a lucky punch. I got punched in the ear once and you lose your balance and then you're in a lot of trouble. Right. So I can get lucky.

Alex Jones can't lucky. It's me against Rogan is harder. I like you. If you said to me, you don't have 8% chance. But Alex does. Okay, I'm not gonna, it's fine, right? So why does Alex stand almost no chance, he asked me. So first of all, it's not just because I'm big and he's big. One, I wrestled.

Yeah, if you wrestled, then you're like, I watched this show with my kids, Physical 100, it's like a Korean show where they try to find out who's the best athlete. They have one thing where they have to wrestle away the ball and keep it this big giant ball. I'm like, every wrestler is going to win. Every MMA fighter is going to win. And every time they win.

And they're like, dad, how did you know that? Because we get trained. We're not going to lose to a non-wrestler in a wrestling contest. It's not going to happen. Right? So you can get lucky, but it's unlikely. So one, wrestling. Now that was from a long time ago, but at least you know the mechanics, right? Number two, I've gotten into about 30 actual street fights in my life.

And you can say street fight's not the same as MMA. Of course, that's true. Obviously true, right? But it's not no experience. It's some experience. And the most important part of a street fight is being able to take a punch to the face. Okay. Yeah. Knowing what it feels like to get punched in the face. Yeah. So I've been punched in the face, I don't know, dozens of times in my life.

So, and then for Alex, the main thing, and also true for Rogan is that It's about willpower, right? So if Joe has a 92% chance, in my opinion, of knocking me out or beating me because he has the skill and he's trained and he knows what he's doing, so all the willpower in the world isn't going to help you if you get kicked upside the head, right? So, but...

in the unlikely circumstances that I've worn him down, right, then I'm a little bit more in the ballgame because I got willpower. For Alex, he doesn't have the willpower I have, okay? Because to me, the idea of losing to Alex Jones is unthinkable. I would do anything not to lose. Anything.

Brother, we've been around 22 years in the toughest industry in the world. I understand, yeah. Right. If you like, do you have any idea how hard it is to run a 75 person company and make money online and survive after all the guys who took billions of dollars went? I hear you. Tremendous willpower. So, but overall you're, I, this is not the hill I'm dying on. Okay. Joe would win. I get it.

So you don't think a big guy that still is in good shape, that was a wrestler, that's been in a lot of street fights, you still think .0001? It depends on the street fights, but yeah, .0001. Okay, yeah, and it's such a minute disagreement because... So take me out of it. So you take out the willpower part of blah, blah, blah. I think it's one to 2%. Yeah.