Chad Kultgen

So both of them are MAGA?

Both of my parents are very MAGA.

I mean, as MAGA as it gets.

My sister and I are very much not MAGA at all, quite the opposite.

And yeah, we didn't talk to each other.

Or my sister and I weren't really talking to our parents for a number of years during kind of the end of Obama and the end of his second term into Trump's first term.

We just didn't have a relationship with them.

Wow, is that bad.

Yeah, it was terrible.

I mean, we'd go home for like a Christmas or a birthday or whatever.

And within five minutes, we'd just all be in the living room.

Fox News would be on three TVs and my dad would just be screaming in our face about how stupid we were.

And it got to be too much.

But at a certain point, you know, my parents were like getting older during this during Biden's term.

Yeah.

And I was like, are we really going to just go the rest of their lives and not talk to them?

Let me call my mom up.

At that point, I was doing a couple of podcasts.

I really like podcasting as an art form.

So I was like, let me call my mom up and see if she would be down to just have an hour conversation with me about politics.