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Chamath Palihapitiya

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All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Anthropic's Generational Run, OpenAI Panics, AI Moats, Meta Loses Lawsuits

Freeberg, let me pull you into this because my base case here is that all consumer queries are going to be free.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Anthropic's Generational Run, OpenAI Panics, AI Moats, Meta Loses Lawsuits

Apple is going to make them free, they're already free for Google, I think Matt is going to make them free and actually have a decent product soon.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Anthropic's Generational Run, OpenAI Panics, AI Moats, Meta Loses Lawsuits

And Microsoft same thing.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Anthropic's Generational Run, OpenAI Panics, AI Moats, Meta Loses Lawsuits

chat GPT has decided to push off advertising, they were going to put advertising in it, you remember, they got mocked by anthropic with their Super Bowl ads.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Anthropic's Generational Run, OpenAI Panics, AI Moats, Meta Loses Lawsuits

So what do you think is going to happen on the consumer side, consumers generally don't pay for services, that's usually five to 20% of the market is paid services, and everything else is free and ad supported.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Anthropic's Generational Run, OpenAI Panics, AI Moats, Meta Loses Lawsuits

But it looks like Apple and Google are going to just let it rip.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Anthropic's Generational Run, OpenAI Panics, AI Moats, Meta Loses Lawsuits

So that could take the revenue oxygen away from chat GPT.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Anthropic's Generational Run, OpenAI Panics, AI Moats, Meta Loses Lawsuits

So what is your thought here on who wins consumer?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Anthropic's Generational Run, OpenAI Panics, AI Moats, Meta Loses Lawsuits

Probably less on average because it's global number, but yeah.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Anthropic's Generational Run, OpenAI Panics, AI Moats, Meta Loses Lawsuits

Sachs, the numbers

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Anthropic's Generational Run, OpenAI Panics, AI Moats, Meta Loses Lawsuits

Right now would be more in my estimation, about 50 million people subscribe to ChatGPT.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Anthropic's Generational Run, OpenAI Panics, AI Moats, Meta Loses Lawsuits

They got a billion users or they're trended to a billion.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Anthropic's Generational Run, OpenAI Panics, AI Moats, Meta Loses Lawsuits

I think they'll probably hit it in the next month or two.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Anthropic's Generational Run, OpenAI Panics, AI Moats, Meta Loses Lawsuits

Certainly they had 900 million two or three months ago.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Anthropic's Generational Run, OpenAI Panics, AI Moats, Meta Loses Lawsuits

So it's about 5%.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Anthropic's Generational Run, OpenAI Panics, AI Moats, Meta Loses Lawsuits

Where do you think this winds up?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Anthropic's Generational Run, OpenAI Panics, AI Moats, Meta Loses Lawsuits

Do you think it becomes...

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Anthropic's Generational Run, OpenAI Panics, AI Moats, Meta Loses Lawsuits

you know, 300, 400, 500 million consumers are willing to pay 20 bucks a month for this?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Anthropic's Generational Run, OpenAI Panics, AI Moats, Meta Loses Lawsuits

Or do you think it's more free and the data and the ad supportedness of it go the meta and the Google route?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Anthropic's Generational Run, OpenAI Panics, AI Moats, Meta Loses Lawsuits

Obviously, both can work.